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Batman returns once more: Christopher Nolan does it again!!!
JohnnyL:
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--- Quote from: basumarpo1610 on March 20, 2010, 05:45:27 AM ---Nolan will NEVER put The Penguin in his Batman movie! Mark my words.
I think Nolan said something about not wanting to go into the "supernatural" aspects of the previous Batman-universe(s).
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If you're talking about using a version of Penguin that is like what was used in Tim Burton's "Batman Returns," then I completely agree with you. Nolan has said that he will not use anything that leans too far into the realm of fantasy or the supernatural. So, your reasoning is sound. But if they took the character back to his comic book origin, he would still be on the table to use, as there was no supernatural element to the Penguin from the comics.
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If he's just an arms dealer who likes tuxedo jackets and garnered the name penguin because of that and his stocky build that'd be fine. If he uses his umbrellas to fly then that would be stupid.
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Yeah. I don't think they'd give him flying umbrellas or anything. They might give him a gun-umbrella or something. But I think if they used Penguin, he would be toned wayyy down from what Burton did.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: JohnnyL on March 21, 2010, 09:43:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 21, 2010, 08:32:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: JohnnyL on March 21, 2010, 07:20:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: basumarpo1610 on March 20, 2010, 05:45:27 AM ---Nolan will NEVER put The Penguin in his Batman movie! Mark my words.
I think Nolan said something about not wanting to go into the "supernatural" aspects of the previous Batman-universe(s).
--- End quote ---
If you're talking about using a version of Penguin that is like what was used in Tim Burton's "Batman Returns," then I completely agree with you. Nolan has said that he will not use anything that leans too far into the realm of fantasy or the supernatural. So, your reasoning is sound. But if they took the character back to his comic book origin, he would still be on the table to use, as there was no supernatural element to the Penguin from the comics.
--- End quote ---
If he's just an arms dealer who likes tuxedo jackets and garnered the name penguin because of that and his stocky build that'd be fine. If he uses his umbrellas to fly then that would be stupid.
--- End quote ---
Yeah. I don't think they'd give him flying umbrellas or anything. They might give him a gun-umbrella or something. But I think if they used Penguin, he would be toned wayyy down from what Burton did.
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It would work if he's some out of town huge arms dealer and such who sees an opening in Gotham city. With every cop trying to hunt down Batman there's plenty of room for The Penguin to make money of the streets. Or how could just be qa new player on the streets that comes up in the absence of the old order which was all but taken out in the last film. The comic origin of being a bullied kid and getting the name Penguin because of his looks but hating the name works fine for a Nolan film. He comes up on the streets of Gotham and opens in nightclub, using it to strengthen his place in the Gotham underworld, and even plays informant to Batman in order for Bats to allow it to stay open. It's not rocket science.
Blasphemy:
Batman Begins and Dark Knight were connected, but the connection isn't huge, it's enough to show they are sequels, but in the end it's not essential to the over-all movie. can't wait though.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Blasphemy on March 21, 2010, 09:53:54 PM ---Batman Begins and Dark Knight were connected, but the connection isn't huge, it's enough to show they are sequels, but in the end it's not essential to the over-all movie. can't wait though.
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Why do people try and downplay the connection? It's the same director, same writer, same actors playing the same characters, the same universe, and parts of both stories overlap. It's a sequel no matter how you look at it.
It's no less connected than Batman and Batman Returns or T1 and T2, and in T2 case it's almost more enjoyable if you've not seen T1 because of the similar plot.
Most sequels in Hollywood are stand alone films with the first film not being an absolute essential. Films like Lord of the Rings are the exception.
How many Hollywood sequels are really the same story drawn out over two films?
Javier:
Part of the reason what makes The Dark Knight great is the fact that it continues the overall arc in story and character from Batman Begins. Now it seems to be even more evident that people liked The Dark Knight for it's candy coated surfaced. Don't get me wrong, it's not in depth as The Wire, but geez there is still some depth to it at least.
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