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Batman returns once more: Christopher Nolan does it again!!!
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 21, 2010, 10:37:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blasphemy on March 21, 2010, 09:53:54 PM ---Batman Begins and Dark Knight were connected, but the connection isn't huge, it's enough to show they are sequels, but in the end it's not essential to the over-all movie. can't wait though.
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Why do people try and downplay the connection? It's the same director, same writer, same actors playing the same characters, the same universe, and parts of both stories overlap. It's a sequel no matter how you look at it.
It's no less connected than Batman and Batman Returns or T1 and T2, and in T2 case it's almost more enjoyable if you've not seen T1 because of the similar plot.
Most sequels in Hollywood are stand alone films with the first film not being an absolute essential. Films like Lord of the Rings are the exception.
How many Hollywood sequels are really the same story drawn out over two films?
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nobody is denying that they are sequels, but the connection is just put there by people who choose to see the movie for more than just entertainment.
for example, me & 98% of the rest of the world see the movie for a thrilling, enjoyable film; not the connection between the Batman character from first movie to second.
it's not made for anylitcal purposes, but to kill the box office & it surely did.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 22, 2010, 10:15:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 21, 2010, 10:37:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blasphemy on March 21, 2010, 09:53:54 PM ---Batman Begins and Dark Knight were connected, but the connection isn't huge, it's enough to show they are sequels, but in the end it's not essential to the over-all movie. can't wait though.
--- End quote ---
Why do people try and downplay the connection? It's the same director, same writer, same actors playing the same characters, the same universe, and parts of both stories overlap. It's a sequel no matter how you look at it.
It's no less connected than Batman and Batman Returns or T1 and T2, and in T2 case it's almost more enjoyable if you've not seen T1 because of the similar plot.
Most sequels in Hollywood are stand alone films with the first film not being an absolute essential. Films like Lord of the Rings are the exception.
How many Hollywood sequels are really the same story drawn out over two films?
--- End quote ---
nobody is denying that they are sequels, but the connection is just put there by people who choose to see the movie for more than just entertainment.
for example, me & 98% of the rest of the world see the movie for a thrilling, enjoyable film; not the connection between the Batman character from first movie to second.
it's not made for anylitcal purposes, but to kill the box office & it surely did.
--- End quote ---
And you and 98% of the world are right, but you would also be right about 98% of all sequels. What are these magical sequels that are unwatchable unless seeing the first film first?
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 22, 2010, 02:45:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 22, 2010, 10:15:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 21, 2010, 10:37:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blasphemy on March 21, 2010, 09:53:54 PM ---Batman Begins and Dark Knight were connected, but the connection isn't huge, it's enough to show they are sequels, but in the end it's not essential to the over-all movie. can't wait though.
--- End quote ---
Why do people try and downplay the connection? It's the same director, same writer, same actors playing the same characters, the same universe, and parts of both stories overlap. It's a sequel no matter how you look at it.
It's no less connected than Batman and Batman Returns or T1 and T2, and in T2 case it's almost more enjoyable if you've not seen T1 because of the similar plot.
Most sequels in Hollywood are stand alone films with the first film not being an absolute essential. Films like Lord of the Rings are the exception.
How many Hollywood sequels are really the same story drawn out over two films?
--- End quote ---
nobody is denying that they are sequels, but the connection is just put there by people who choose to see the movie for more than just entertainment.
for example, me & 98% of the rest of the world see the movie for a thrilling, enjoyable film; not the connection between the Batman character from first movie to second.
it's not made for anylitcal purposes, but to kill the box office & it surely did.
--- End quote ---
And you and 98% of the world are right, but you would also be right about 98% of all sequels. What are these magical sequels that are unwatchable unless seeing the first film first?
--- End quote ---
i don't know, i didn't say a sequel had to be in direct relation with the first film.
BUT, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, The Godfather, Spiderman(?), Lethal Weapon(?), Transporter, Die Hard(?), i can't even think of other sequel movies.. :-[
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 22, 2010, 04:37:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 22, 2010, 02:45:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 22, 2010, 10:15:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 21, 2010, 10:37:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blasphemy on March 21, 2010, 09:53:54 PM ---Batman Begins and Dark Knight were connected, but the connection isn't huge, it's enough to show they are sequels, but in the end it's not essential to the over-all movie. can't wait though.
--- End quote ---
Why do people try and downplay the connection? It's the same director, same writer, same actors playing the same characters, the same universe, and parts of both stories overlap. It's a sequel no matter how you look at it.
It's no less connected than Batman and Batman Returns or T1 and T2, and in T2 case it's almost more enjoyable if you've not seen T1 because of the similar plot.
Most sequels in Hollywood are stand alone films with the first film not being an absolute essential. Films like Lord of the Rings are the exception.
How many Hollywood sequels are really the same story drawn out over two films?
--- End quote ---
nobody is denying that they are sequels, but the connection is just put there by people who choose to see the movie for more than just entertainment.
for example, me & 98% of the rest of the world see the movie for a thrilling, enjoyable film; not the connection between the Batman character from first movie to second.
it's not made for anylitcal purposes, but to kill the box office & it surely did.
--- End quote ---
And you and 98% of the world are right, but you would also be right about 98% of all sequels. What are these magical sequels that are unwatchable unless seeing the first film first?
--- End quote ---
i don't know, i didn't say a sequel had to be in direct relation with the first film.
BUT, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, The Godfather, Spiderman(?), Lethal Weapon(?), Transporter, Die Hard(?), i can't even think of other sequel movies.. :-[
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Lord of the Rings is the only one where you can't watch it with out seeing the first one. I can easily watch Spiderman 2, GF 2, Empire Strikes Back, Transporter, or any of the Die Hards with out seeing the first in the series. Empire is the closest of the bunch, but you're telling me you can't watch Lethal Weapon 2 with out seeing the first, but you can watch Dark Knight with out seeing Begins? Because if so, it would make a lot of sense regarding your Tom Brady arguments. ;)
Chamillitary Click:
^i put "?" next to the ones i wasn't really sure about.
i couldn't even tell you what happened in Lethal Weapon 2; i haven't seen those in years.
just saying there are sequels where you need to see the first one, Dark Knight just isn't one of them.
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