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Quote from: Jimmy H. on February 14, 2010, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 02:07:02 PMAnyway, if Dre is really going after WIDEawake like this, I say they should just say fuck it and release Watch Ya Mouth and any other Dre diss that they have in the arsenal. Do you honestly think Dre gives a shit about old diss songs? The guy's been around for over 20 years and has been dissed by just about every rapper imaginable. He's been called gay. There's been people saying he doesn't produce his own shit. Everything that could be said has been said and then endlessly dissected by people on the Internet for years. I'm not saying that Dre's feelings would get hurt, but it's been commonly believed that WIDEawake may have been holding back from considering that track for release release due to them trying to build a good relationship with Dre to hopefully get his blessing to put out his Death Row material.
Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 02:07:02 PMAnyway, if Dre is really going after WIDEawake like this, I say they should just say fuck it and release Watch Ya Mouth and any other Dre diss that they have in the arsenal. Do you honestly think Dre gives a shit about old diss songs? The guy's been around for over 20 years and has been dissed by just about every rapper imaginable. He's been called gay. There's been people saying he doesn't produce his own shit. Everything that could be said has been said and then endlessly dissected by people on the Internet for years.
Anyway, if Dre is really going after WIDEawake like this, I say they should just say fuck it and release Watch Ya Mouth and any other Dre diss that they have in the arsenal.
Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 06:04:05 PMQuote from: Jimmy H. on February 14, 2010, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 02:07:02 PMAnyway, if Dre is really going after WIDEawake like this, I say they should just say fuck it and release Watch Ya Mouth and any other Dre diss that they have in the arsenal. Do you honestly think Dre gives a shit about old diss songs? The guy's been around for over 20 years and has been dissed by just about every rapper imaginable. He's been called gay. There's been people saying he doesn't produce his own shit. Everything that could be said has been said and then endlessly dissected by people on the Internet for years. I'm not saying that Dre's feelings would get hurt, but it's been commonly believed that WIDEawake may have been holding back from considering that track for release release due to them trying to build a good relationship with Dre to hopefully get his blessing to put out his Death Row material. I think you have a good point there. When Lavi was in charge, I think it was doubtful that that track would be released. The whole Wideawake/Death Row operation is basically under a new regime now though. I'm not sure that they care too much, one way or the other. And Dre suing them, probably doesn't do much to change that either. I'm sure at this point, both parties probably feel that the bridge has basically been burned. It's too bad they couldn't have gotten Dre actively involved in the creative process of the "Chronic: Re-Lit," cd. If he had been on board, maybe they could have asked him to handle the mixing, himself. Then, it obviously would have been done right. The way the statement from Dre's lawyer(s)? is worded, it makes it sound as though Dre wasn't even aware that a new version of "The Chronic" was going to be released though. Which is suspicious, because if he was only recently made aware that "The Chronic: Re-Lit" was out there, who blocked Wideawake/Death Row from releasing Dre's unreleased tracks, to begin with? I still don't really see what the big deal is to him, about that. The not getting paid, I understand. But this obsession with keeping fans from hearing a handful of unreleased songs is ridiculous.
Quote from: JohnnyL on February 15, 2010, 06:24:06 AMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 06:04:05 PMQuote from: Jimmy H. on February 14, 2010, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 02:07:02 PMAnyway, if Dre is really going after WIDEawake like this, I say they should just say fuck it and release Watch Ya Mouth and any other Dre diss that they have in the arsenal. Do you honestly think Dre gives a shit about old diss songs? The guy's been around for over 20 years and has been dissed by just about every rapper imaginable. He's been called gay. There's been people saying he doesn't produce his own shit. Everything that could be said has been said and then endlessly dissected by people on the Internet for years. I'm not saying that Dre's feelings would get hurt, but it's been commonly believed that WIDEawake may have been holding back from considering that track for release release due to them trying to build a good relationship with Dre to hopefully get his blessing to put out his Death Row material. I think you have a good point there. When Lavi was in charge, I think it was doubtful that that track would be released. The whole Wideawake/Death Row operation is basically under a new regime now though. I'm not sure that they care too much, one way or the other. And Dre suing them, probably doesn't do much to change that either. I'm sure at this point, both parties probably feel that the bridge has basically been burned. It's too bad they couldn't have gotten Dre actively involved in the creative process of the "Chronic: Re-Lit," cd. If he had been on board, maybe they could have asked him to handle the mixing, himself. Then, it obviously would have been done right. The way the statement from Dre's lawyer(s)? is worded, it makes it sound as though Dre wasn't even aware that a new version of "The Chronic" was going to be released though. Which is suspicious, because if he was only recently made aware that "The Chronic: Re-Lit" was out there, who blocked Wideawake/Death Row from releasing Dre's unreleased tracks, to begin with? I still don't really see what the big deal is to him, about that. The not getting paid, I understand. But this obsession with keeping fans from hearing a handful of unreleased songs is ridiculous.yeah i find that strange myself.but the blocking is old.as far as keeping songs in the vault: you already know that Dre is paranoid.he doesn't want the songs to be out there
yeah, so either Dre or Lara Levi was lying.anyway, look at Detox, how many instrumentals did he store?he's insane
yeah but to be fair, dre has been doing a good job of damaging his reputation all by himself
if i was dre i'd sue them just for the hell of it. he can afford the best legal representation and at the least cause a lot of hassle/short-term expense to wideawake.but why should he?here's why - cause they released some of his unreleased music but mixed it so bad it sounded like some teenager made it in a bedroom. the best example is that doggystyle track. was that a joke or something? shit like that is ultimately damaging to dre's reputation and as we all know, he isn't exactly dropping leftovers on the regular.
What a bitch. This nigga has his fans waiting 10 years for another album and has the nerve to sue another label for doing something he can't seem to do? Faggot.
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on February 15, 2010, 08:56:18 AMyeah, so either Dre or Lara Levi was lying.anyway, look at Detox, how many instrumentals did he store?he's insaneLook at how many shit from pac is still leaking, after dre dies we must have material enough for atleast 20 years.Even the unfinished beats could make some dope ass album if they allow other producers to finish them
Quote from: The Great Cornholio on February 15, 2010, 09:05:52 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on February 15, 2010, 08:56:18 AMyeah, so either Dre or Lara Levi was lying.anyway, look at Detox, how many instrumentals did he store?he's insaneLook at how many shit from pac is still leaking, after dre dies we must have material enough for atleast 20 years.Even the unfinished beats could make some dope ass album if they allow other producers to finish them Yeah, but that's if we ever get to hear them. No doubt, he has to have a ton of unreleased tracks in the vault. Knowing Dre and how obsessive-compulsive he is, he'll probably put in his Will that he wants all of the copies of his unreleased tracks burned.
Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 06:04:05 PMQuote from: Jimmy H. on February 14, 2010, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 02:07:02 PMAnyway, if Dre is really going after WIDEawake like this, I say they should just say fuck it and release Watch Ya Mouth and any other Dre diss that they have in the arsenal. Do you honestly think Dre gives a shit about old diss songs? The guy's been around for over 20 years and has been dissed by just about every rapper imaginable. He's been called gay. There's been people saying he doesn't produce his own shit. Everything that could be said has been said and then endlessly dissected by people on the Internet for years. I'm not saying that Dre's feelings would get hurt, but it's been commonly believed that WIDEawake may have been holding back from considering that track for release release due to them trying to build a good relationship with Dre to hopefully get his blessing to put out his Death Row material.that was just talk though
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on February 15, 2010, 01:19:57 AMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 06:04:05 PMQuote from: Jimmy H. on February 14, 2010, 03:34:31 PMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 14, 2010, 02:07:02 PMAnyway, if Dre is really going after WIDEawake like this, I say they should just say fuck it and release Watch Ya Mouth and any other Dre diss that they have in the arsenal. Do you honestly think Dre gives a shit about old diss songs? The guy's been around for over 20 years and has been dissed by just about every rapper imaginable. He's been called gay. There's been people saying he doesn't produce his own shit. Everything that could be said has been said and then endlessly dissected by people on the Internet for years. I'm not saying that Dre's feelings would get hurt, but it's been commonly believed that WIDEawake may have been holding back from considering that track for release release due to them trying to build a good relationship with Dre to hopefully get his blessing to put out his Death Row material.that was just talk thoughBut anyone with common sense who has been following the WIDEawake situation when Lava held the reins knows that this was more than just a strong likelihood.
I agree. When Lara Lavi was in charge, I very much doubt she would have seriously considered releasing that track. For whatever her faults, I think she was sincere in wanting to rebuild relationships with the former artists who had been burned by the original Death Row. It's just good business sense anyway. You gain a lot more from generating good will between people than you do from making enemies. Unfortunately, Suge didn't seem to understand that.
Dre probably don't wanna see his legacy go the way of Pac's. Some shit isn't released for a reason and we know that Dre is a perfectionist. We all can agree that some of the those stored Pac songs that got released weren't all that great and even worse were some of those that were remixed or re-done (Loyal To the Game).