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The Official World Cup South Africa 2010 (Official Discussion)
Mac 10 †:
--- Quote from: Javier on July 13, 2010, 01:23:01 AM ---Thrashings usually happen when one side can easily exploit the other team's weak points. Brazil 3-0 vs Chile (Chile attacks too much and pressures a lot, creating many spaces), Germany vs Argentina 4-1 (weak sidebacks, since they're really center backs and lack of defensive midfield). It's a major tournament for fuck's sake, I want to see intense matches that end 1-0, 2-1 etc. Tell me it isn't a work of art to see Xavi run the team, this guy sees plays a few passes ahead of time. The only thing I would wanted to see from this Spain side more was the attempt to shoot more outside the box, specifically from Iniesta and Xavi but these players are obviously pass no matter what almost. I still prefer a low scoring Spain that holds the ball to a low scoring cagey side that doesn't have good possession football.
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I have to agree with Duke to a certain extent. Xavi made the most passes in the tournament and that was always gonna happen because Spain play similar to Barca.
Inter knocked Barca out the CL because they knew shite, slow, unpenetrative possession isn't always the most important thing in a game.
Luckily for Spain they were under par but still managed to come out champions.
Don't get it twisted, on paper for me they still have the best starting X1 in the world by a mile but they were unimpressive as fuck.
Javier:
To me the most impressive team was Brazil, but Brazil just had the weakest 30 min of the entire tournament and they're gone. Yet, I'm also certain everybody would say Brazil was boring and not entertaining enough.
Basically, in major tournaments teams don't allow you to play entertaining football. If Argentina or Germany would have taken Spain's route, they wouldn't have made it to the Semi's
13th Duke:
--- Quote from: Javier on July 13, 2010, 06:29:03 AM ---To me the most impressive team was Brazil, but Brazil just had the weakest 30 min of the entire tournament and they're gone. Yet, I'm also certain everybody would say Brazil was boring and not entertaining enough.
Basically, in major tournaments teams don't allow you to play entertaining football. If Argentina or Germany would have taken Spain's route, they wouldn't have made it to the Semi's
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No I actually completely agree with what youve just said about Brazil. Going forward they were spectacular. And I liked how they defended, they transformed defence to attack on the counter very quickly. And with flair.
That 30 mins was a shame, as I'm certain they'd have been able to beat Spain if they met.
Javier:
--- Quote from: 13th Duke on July 13, 2010, 07:22:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on July 13, 2010, 06:29:03 AM ---To me the most impressive team was Brazil, but Brazil just had the weakest 30 min of the entire tournament and they're gone. Yet, I'm also certain everybody would say Brazil was boring and not entertaining enough.
Basically, in major tournaments teams don't allow you to play entertaining football. If Argentina or Germany would have taken Spain's route, they wouldn't have made it to the Semi's
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No I actually completely agree with what youve just said about Brazil. Going forward they were spectacular. And I liked how they defended, they transformed defence to attack on the counter very quickly. And with flair.
That 30 mins was a shame, as I'm certain they'd have been able to beat Spain if they met.
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Kudos then my friend. It was really tiring to see every tv pundit that I would watch say, "Brazil under Dunga is boring football" and it was driving me insane.
Meho:
True about Brazil. Was most impressed by them and Argentina but Argentina's defense was too weak to be a serious contender. But Brazil had it all, strong defense and a killer offense with nice fluid transitions (basically a national team version of Inter). Even against Dutch they were killing it until that own goal and then complete blackout. Was very disappointed by that, they started playing like 10 year olds all panicking.
Spain was meh. I mean the EU 08 Spain was brilliant but this one not so much. They had this years Barca system when they're dragging the ball in the defense, tiring the opponent, not too nice to watch. And they had an easy group and an easy route to the finals (Germany's tactics was completely wrong). And even against Dutch they could've easily lost, luck was definitely on their side.
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