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Javier:

--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 05:27:04 PM ---
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--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 03:53:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on March 13, 2010, 03:33:39 PM ---Part of the problem with our society is the need to diss religion.  Let's take Prop 8 in California for example.  The way to vote for Prop 8 was No, and the only reason it passed was because of the influence of religion.  The best way to convince the Yes on 8 crowd was to understand their belief, and try to convince them once you have that opening of understanding their belief.  But nope, the way people went about it was "Fucking religion nuts!  You have backward ass thinking, what the fuck!"  How the hell are you going to expect to change people's minds if you insult what they believe in? 



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Or becuz them people just have common sense. MARRIAGE is RELIGION. There should be NO vote on it. I thought that's why there was Church and State separation. They have civil unions and that's fine. Why they gotta have marriage? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, to FUCK 'round wit 'religious folk'. They want a marriage ceremony to say they married 'Under God'. Who gives a fuck if they wanna be put on the same insurance, and leave wills to one another, or have living will rights over each other.. Isn't that why they have civil unions? So it's the SAME shit. So why fuck wit the religious folks anyways? To make Religion look bad once again. ::) That's all that is about. It's all to make Religion look bad. 'Religion is preventing us our rights, no fair'. Fair? What?! MARRIAGE is RELIGION. But it's those who do not want God in America. I guarantee it's all done by Atheist politicians. It's them who are all behind the pushing to vote on it. Atheism is gon take the world down. :'(

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Nobody is forcing your Church to marry gay couples.  Your Priest/Pastor/ or whoever can literally deny gay couples from marrying in that church all day.  We have two choices, either call every couple(straight or gay) that goes to the government to legally be recognized a civil union or call it a marriage.  It's not a selective decision. 

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So who gon marry them? :eh:






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A judge can marry people.  As Sikotic said, there are a lot of people without a religion that get married by the State. 

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Well that's pretty retarded of them right? :-\

I mean if you ain't religious, why the fuck get married when legally it ain't even good...financially, tax wise and shit. Like I said if you want all the political government law rights, insurance, income taxes, etc. file for a civil union.

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Ask a recent couple that got married by the state, "why didn't you file for a Civil Union?"  I would be all for that, but that's not a realistic solution. Nobody is going to be down with the phrase, "Just Civil Unioned".  On the other hand, if you were to just allow a state to legally marry gay people that's not that crazy of an idea these days. 

QuietTruth:

--- Quote from: Javier on March 13, 2010, 05:33:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 05:27:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on March 13, 2010, 05:15:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 05:12:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on March 13, 2010, 04:40:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 03:53:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on March 13, 2010, 03:33:39 PM ---Part of the problem with our society is the need to diss religion.  Let's take Prop 8 in California for example.  The way to vote for Prop 8 was No, and the only reason it passed was because of the influence of religion.  The best way to convince the Yes on 8 crowd was to understand their belief, and try to convince them once you have that opening of understanding their belief.  But nope, the way people went about it was "Fucking religion nuts!  You have backward ass thinking, what the fuck!"  How the hell are you going to expect to change people's minds if you insult what they believe in? 



--- End quote ---

Or becuz them people just have common sense. MARRIAGE is RELIGION. There should be NO vote on it. I thought that's why there was Church and State separation. They have civil unions and that's fine. Why they gotta have marriage? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, to FUCK 'round wit 'religious folk'. They want a marriage ceremony to say they married 'Under God'. Who gives a fuck if they wanna be put on the same insurance, and leave wills to one another, or have living will rights over each other.. Isn't that why they have civil unions? So it's the SAME shit. So why fuck wit the religious folks anyways? To make Religion look bad once again. ::) That's all that is about. It's all to make Religion look bad. 'Religion is preventing us our rights, no fair'. Fair? What?! MARRIAGE is RELIGION. But it's those who do not want God in America. I guarantee it's all done by Atheist politicians. It's them who are all behind the pushing to vote on it. Atheism is gon take the world down. :'(

--- End quote ---

Nobody is forcing your Church to marry gay couples.  Your Priest/Pastor/ or whoever can literally deny gay couples from marrying in that church all day.  We have two choices, either call every couple(straight or gay) that goes to the government to legally be recognized a civil union or call it a marriage.  It's not a selective decision. 

--- End quote ---
So who gon marry them? :eh:






--- End quote ---

A judge can marry people.  As Sikotic said, there are a lot of people without a religion that get married by the State. 

--- End quote ---

Well that's pretty retarded of them right? :-\

I mean if you ain't religious, why the fuck get married when legally it ain't even good...financially, tax wise and shit. Like I said if you want all the political government law rights, insurance, income taxes, etc. file for a civil union.

--- End quote ---

Ask a recent couple that got married by the state, "why didn't you file for a Civil Union?"  I would be all for that, but that's not a realistic solution. Nobody is going to be down with the phrase, "Just Civil Unioned".  On the other hand, if you were to just allow a state to legally marry gay people that's not that crazy of an idea these days. 

--- End quote ---

But don't states have Civil Unions and Marriage? All before this 'banning'.

Oooohhhhhhh, yes nigga, Ohhhh yes, it's a crazy idea. It's beyond that. Lol.

Javier:

--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 05:35:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on March 13, 2010, 05:33:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 05:27:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on March 13, 2010, 05:15:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 05:12:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on March 13, 2010, 04:40:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 03:53:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on March 13, 2010, 03:33:39 PM ---Part of the problem with our society is the need to diss religion.  Let's take Prop 8 in California for example.  The way to vote for Prop 8 was No, and the only reason it passed was because of the influence of religion.  The best way to convince the Yes on 8 crowd was to understand their belief, and try to convince them once you have that opening of understanding their belief.  But nope, the way people went about it was "Fucking religion nuts!  You have backward ass thinking, what the fuck!"  How the hell are you going to expect to change people's minds if you insult what they believe in? 



--- End quote ---

Or becuz them people just have common sense. MARRIAGE is RELIGION. There should be NO vote on it. I thought that's why there was Church and State separation. They have civil unions and that's fine. Why they gotta have marriage? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, to FUCK 'round wit 'religious folk'. They want a marriage ceremony to say they married 'Under God'. Who gives a fuck if they wanna be put on the same insurance, and leave wills to one another, or have living will rights over each other.. Isn't that why they have civil unions? So it's the SAME shit. So why fuck wit the religious folks anyways? To make Religion look bad once again. ::) That's all that is about. It's all to make Religion look bad. 'Religion is preventing us our rights, no fair'. Fair? What?! MARRIAGE is RELIGION. But it's those who do not want God in America. I guarantee it's all done by Atheist politicians. It's them who are all behind the pushing to vote on it. Atheism is gon take the world down. :'(

--- End quote ---

Nobody is forcing your Church to marry gay couples.  Your Priest/Pastor/ or whoever can literally deny gay couples from marrying in that church all day.  We have two choices, either call every couple(straight or gay) that goes to the government to legally be recognized a civil union or call it a marriage.  It's not a selective decision. 

--- End quote ---
So who gon marry them? :eh:






--- End quote ---

A judge can marry people.  As Sikotic said, there are a lot of people without a religion that get married by the State. 

--- End quote ---

Well that's pretty retarded of them right? :-\

I mean if you ain't religious, why the fuck get married when legally it ain't even good...financially, tax wise and shit. Like I said if you want all the political government law rights, insurance, income taxes, etc. file for a civil union.

--- End quote ---

Ask a recent couple that got married by the state, "why didn't you file for a Civil Union?"  I would be all for that, but that's not a realistic solution. Nobody is going to be down with the phrase, "Just Civil Unioned".  On the other hand, if you were to just allow a state to legally marry gay people that's not that crazy of an idea these days. 

--- End quote ---

But don't states have Civil Unions and Marriage? All before this 'banning'.

Oooohhhhhhh, yes nigga, Ohhhh yes, it's a crazy idea. It's beyond that. Lol.

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Having both is a form of discrimination.  You either have Civil Unions for all or Marriage for all.  Society has to pick, and at the moment we're really close to having Marriage for All.  We can go ahead and start to push to have Civil Unions for all, but we're decades away from that fight. 

QuietTruth:
Close to having Marriage for All? But states is still voting to ban it. They should have both. How is it discrimination? When Marriage is Religion. And God says no to homosexual sex let alone.....

Please don't label it discrimination.

J.D. Wykid, Esq.:
hey, if gays want to get married, more power to em.

i dont get WHY they would want to get married in the first place.  marriage is a scam, for everyone.

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