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not really, cause these dudes look at the hip hop game like a business, and we look at it based on quality of the music.
Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on April 18, 2010, 03:49:42 AMnot really, cause these dudes look at the hip hop game like a business, and we look at it based on quality of the music. I think they have a better understanding though. Someone who has never performed live or never sat down and recorded an album or dealt with the industry politics, you're not always gonna have a clear idea of what goes into it. Quality of music is sort of a broad category to me because a average rapper can sit in the booth and make amazing records if he is working with a producer that knows how to hide his weak spots.
but there's a BIG difference between a successful record and an amazing record. Please Hammer Don't Hurt Em sold over 10 millions albums but its a shitty album. illmatic sold shit but many people think its one of the greatest albums ever made. I don't think most rappers distinguish between the two, cause to them an album that sells well is a bigger message than an album that people "say" is good but don't buy. The Carter III sold a millie in a week and all these rappers were coming out and calling it a classic. Now that all the hype has died down most people think its overrated and not even lil wayne's best record. I don't trust rappers opinions because its a business to them. Whereas a fan can sit back and judge music based on its quality, not on how many units it moved.
Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on April 18, 2010, 03:49:42 AMnot really, cause these dudes look at the hip hop game like a business, and we look at it based on quality of the music. I think they have a better understanding though. Someone who has never performed live or never sat down and recorded an album or dealt with the industry politics, you're not always gonna have a clear idea of what goes into it. Quality of music is sort of a broad category to me because a average rapper can sit in the booth and make amazing records if he is working with a producer that knows how to hide his weak spots. But it's interesting on the one hand how someone's opinion can sort of invalidate certain people's own feelings on him. I mean, if you think Rakim or KRS-One is one of the greatest MC's ever, and the person they think is the greatest MC is someone you don't like, do they suddenly not know what a "great MC" is? I mean, are we so biased in views or whatever that we can call someone one of the best at something and turn around and act like their opinion holds no weight when they discuss that same subject?
oh fuck off not this arguement again. jay has been relevant longer than any other rapper and you cant really argue that, its just fact. IT ALL COMES DOWN TO PERSONAL OPINION ON WHO YOU THINK THE GREATEST IS SO WHY ARGUE.one thing u cant deny is that jay has done it well without completely selling out, hes matured his sound, stayed current, been successfull etc. im no longer a fan of his but i cant deny what hes done. so unless you have some other method of determining who the best rapper is that doesnt involve your personal likes/dislikes then shuuuuut uuuuup.
I bet you not many rappers even think about artistic integrity. We as fans judge rappers music hard. But rappers judge themselves based on what they have accomplished. I'm not saying Nas is bumping Wayne and Rick Ross, but he has no problem giving those guys props for their success. Or working with them on a collab. That's true for most mainstream rappers. Underground artists get an unfair pass for not "selling out", when in reality they would probably be making songs with pop rappers if they could.