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There is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores."
Quote from: EFFeX on April 20, 2010, 02:10:11 PMThere is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores." Well, at least, we can say there's a solo project but I don't view collections of music from 5 or 6 years ago with limited or no input from the artist or his current label as "albums" but everyone has their own opinions. I'd just be happy to have a Crooked I record in stores. I could care less if the material is already leaked because like I said, I don't own it. I just hope the quality is better than the Snoop disc they put out.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on April 20, 2010, 07:50:08 PMQuote from: EFFeX on April 20, 2010, 02:10:11 PMThere is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores." Well, at least, we can say there's a solo project but I don't view collections of music from 5 or 6 years ago with limited or no input from the artist or his current label as "albums" but everyone has their own opinions. I'd just be happy to have a Crooked I record in stores. I could care less if the material is already leaked because like I said, I don't own it. I just hope the quality is better than the Snoop disc they put out. Yeah, I hear what your saying.I wouldn't really consider it an album either, but at least I don't have to hear that "I can't buy his shit" argument anymore lol.I'm not expecting any of the leaked material to sound much better than what we've heard, but you never know.
Quote from: EFFeX on April 20, 2010, 02:10:11 PMThere is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores." People who still say this should buy Young Boss 2, or Block Obama 2
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on April 19, 2010, 03:09:26 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 08:05:26 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on April 18, 2010, 07:47:50 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 05:21:13 AMQuote from: CaughtUp on April 17, 2010, 01:19:33 PMcrooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors. not really.she was just talking shit Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.the interviews & the reality.she knew exactly what to say.To the extent of how genuine she was being by saying she wanted to build relationships with the artists, I don't know. It's impossible to know what another person's true motivation is. But, she's the only one who even made the appearance of trying to reach out to the former artists. The people in charge clearly don't care about that aspect at this point. From that last interview, that investor from the bank clearly said that he doesn't want anything else to do with Death Row. He said he'd sell it to anyone that would give him his money back for it. That's the kind of mentality that caused them to release that latest Kurupt album, and probably this Crooked I album too, if it manages to get released.
Quote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 08:05:26 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on April 18, 2010, 07:47:50 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 05:21:13 AMQuote from: CaughtUp on April 17, 2010, 01:19:33 PMcrooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors. not really.she was just talking shit Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.the interviews & the reality.she knew exactly what to say.
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on April 18, 2010, 07:47:50 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 05:21:13 AMQuote from: CaughtUp on April 17, 2010, 01:19:33 PMcrooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors. not really.she was just talking shit Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.
Quote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 05:21:13 AMQuote from: CaughtUp on April 17, 2010, 01:19:33 PMcrooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors. not really.she was just talking shit
Quote from: CaughtUp on April 17, 2010, 01:19:33 PMcrooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors.
crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
apparently Crooked I has been approached by wideawake:http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/sabrina/
Quote from: JohnnyL on April 19, 2010, 05:56:31 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on April 19, 2010, 03:09:26 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 08:05:26 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on April 18, 2010, 07:47:50 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 05:21:13 AMQuote from: CaughtUp on April 17, 2010, 01:19:33 PMcrooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors. not really.she was just talking shit Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.the interviews & the reality.she knew exactly what to say.To the extent of how genuine she was being by saying she wanted to build relationships with the artists, I don't know. It's impossible to know what another person's true motivation is. But, she's the only one who even made the appearance of trying to reach out to the former artists. The people in charge clearly don't care about that aspect at this point. From that last interview, that investor from the bank clearly said that he doesn't want anything else to do with Death Row. He said he'd sell it to anyone that would give him his money back for it. That's the kind of mentality that caused them to release that latest Kurupt album, and probably this Crooked I album too, if it manages to get released.apparently Crooked I has been approached by wideawake:http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/sabrina/my bad, i guess i was a bit biased
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on April 21, 2010, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 19, 2010, 05:56:31 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on April 19, 2010, 03:09:26 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 08:05:26 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on April 18, 2010, 07:47:50 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on April 18, 2010, 05:21:13 AMQuote from: CaughtUp on April 17, 2010, 01:19:33 PMcrooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors. not really.she was just talking shit Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.the interviews & the reality.she knew exactly what to say.To the extent of how genuine she was being by saying she wanted to build relationships with the artists, I don't know. It's impossible to know what another person's true motivation is. But, she's the only one who even made the appearance of trying to reach out to the former artists. The people in charge clearly don't care about that aspect at this point. From that last interview, that investor from the bank clearly said that he doesn't want anything else to do with Death Row. He said he'd sell it to anyone that would give him his money back for it. That's the kind of mentality that caused them to release that latest Kurupt album, and probably this Crooked I album too, if it manages to get released.apparently Crooked I has been approached by wideawake:http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/sabrina/my bad, i guess i was a bit biased No problem. I appreciate the acknowledgment. But even I have to admit, I find these conflicting reports a little confusing. First Crooked I says in a live interview that he's probably going to block the release of this. Then, this person says that Crooked's people did indeed approve the artwork. Naturally my first thought is, if Crooked I is opposed to this being released, why in the world would he or anyone who represents him give approval for the album's artwork? On one hand, I'm happy to know that a. that album cover isn't the finished work and b. perhaps Crooked I is now on board with this project, but on the other hand, part of me is still waiting to hear something else official from Crooked I's camp. It's not that I think that Sabrina is lying or that Crooked I has definitely changed his mind, I'm just wondering if both parties are completely on the same page. I hope so. But I guess we'll have to wait and see. Hopefully we'll see a track list for this thing pretty soon, too.