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Tim Tebow #27 overall?? seriously?
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 23, 2010, 09:24:17 PM ---you want to look at Orton? look at Orton & tell me how he did in the Playoffs last season with the current highest paid WR in the game.
Kyle Orton is better than Tim Tebow & that's not saying much; but it didn't matter who the Bronocos drafted, you were going to make the comparison to Brady regardless lol.
if Tim Tebow throws 30 TDs, fuck it, 20 TDs in a season, let alone 50, i'll be impressed.
& my personal favorite, "it's the system he's in", "it's the coaching he's getting", "it's the playcalling", "it's the system", "the system", "the system" & then a quick turnaround, "it's Peyton", "it's all Peyton", "INT? WR's fault", "they won more games in a row than any other team, but lost in the Superbowl; defenses fault". :laugh:
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--- Quote from: FUCK YOU ITS [BLUNT] TYME on April 23, 2010, 08:57:03 PM ---they sayin how he fits good wit josh mcdaniels system and how hes a 2 or 3 year project
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and they sayin exactly what I'm saying.
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what are you saying? because i'm hearing, the system is so easy a caveman can do it; but since Tim won't be starting ahead of Orton or Quinn, why would two more accurate throwers fail in this "fool's proof" system?
i don't even see how Tim could be touching the field unless he was called in for a quick wildcat-ish formation to gain 3 yards & then sit his ass back down on the bench.
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I can't imagine Orton doing worse in last year's playoffs than Brady did. But he did get to the point where they missed him when he was injured, and a few tough losses kept them out of the playoffs last year. And this was in the first year of the system for Orton. He needed some time. But of course all I said was how much better he got in the new system. The QB can never win the game.
It's simple, when a mediocre QB does great it's the system, when a mediocre system does great it's the QB. How is that hard to understand? What is so special about the Colts system? Run your routes on time and wait for Peyton to put it in your hands, whether in coverage or not. No fancy blocking screen plays, no power run, or big run. The whole thing is rested on a QB that is supposed to be God, and he's not. God would have kept Garcon and Reggie from dropping crucial balls.
Look, I never called the dude perfect. There were two key moments in that game where Peyton messed up. The first was the 3rd and 11 and the second was calling that first TO at the end of the game. He knew he messed up right after both plays. But like I said, even a perfect game by him would have changed the outcome. If he sees the jump and throws the ball away it's 4th down and another 50 yard FG attempt for 65 year old Matt Stover. And if he doesn't call that TO, that's ok because #1 WR Reggie Wayne doesn't like getting hit after catching a ball so much he decides to drop it in the endzone.
So that's two mistakes for Manning against a hungry D playing with fire. Reggie's two mistakes wouldn't have changed the outcome either, and same goes for Garcon's dropped pass. This game was lost the second Caldwell benched Manning in week 16. He showed us what kind of coach and man he was; a nice guy who is very careful about risking too much. And guys like that only win when they get lucky. And while the Colts get lucky way too often, they don't get lucky often enough.
Of course this whole thing is Peyton's fault. He's decided to stick around and put up with rotating o-lines, second rate rookie WRs, half assed defenses relying on teams to play come from behind. In his 12 seasons the Colt's have made the playoffs 10 times. That's ten more than they would have with out him. And this is coming from the guy that PREDICTED 11 wins with Matt Cassel in 08 when everyone laughed at me. Peyton should go to a team that cares about beating the shit out of an opponent, not trying to squeeze out a win.
And stop with that 50 shit. Brady is Roger Maris. Peyton is Babe Ruth. It was a lucky year against some very shitty defenses. Best QB season ever is still 04. 100 more attempts to get one more TD. Big deal.
As for how Tebow will get the start if the two above him will be doing great in the new system; well one of the two is going at the end of the season regardless. So that'll leave Tebow the #2 for '11. And I'm not even sure he'll even get the shot at #1. I said there is a chance Quinn lights it up. He showed me something in Notre Dame, and that might come back. Orton showed me nothing, ever, and he's out at the end of the season as far as I'm concerned. But Tebow could simply work harder than the two and with Nolan in Miami that defense might not save them a game or two and if they come out weak people will want to see him start by year 2.
Here's my prediction right now for the next two seasons, barring a lockout. Denver makes the playoffs this year by winning the division. They go 10-6 or 11-5. Maybe the whole way with Orton, maybe not. But Tebow doesn't start a game. The year after the Chiefs make their big run and win the division and Denver near the end of the season realizing they're out decide to start playing Tebow more often. A lot of this depends on how well Quinn can step up and how good that D will be, but by year three, by the simple will of McDaniels, Tebow will be starting at least a few games.
I think SD is on the way out and KC is about to make a jump. And in between that Denver will luck out for one season. What happens after that I don't know.
This all comes true and I want a video of you jerking off to a picture of Manning on youporn.
Chamillitary Click:
^whoa, whoa, easy Cowboy; i wasn't comparing Peyton's '04 to Brady's '07, i was comparing Brady's '07 (just for you, i'll say the "second best" QB season) compared to Tim Tebow, who will never throw 20 touchdowns in a single season.
& i understand, you like to fall off into tangents, but let's just stick to what you originally said about Tim Tebow being AS successful as Tom Brady.
if you're SERIOUSLY going to tell me an overrated college star, with much less of a pocket package as Brady (less accurate, weaker arm), with a much worse team than Brady (after all, even though certain players get a mystery pass; it is a team sport right? ;)), i'm talking worse in just about every aspect of the team, who you just ADMITTED may NEVER even get the chance to be a starting QB can be AS SUCCESSFUL 3 time Super Bowl winning QB who holds the record for most TD's in a single season; i don't know if i'll ever listen to a word you say again lol.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 23, 2010, 10:38:45 PM ---^whoa, whoa, easy Cowboy; i wasn't comparing Peyton's '04 to Brady's '07, i was comparing Brady's '07 (just for you, i'll say the "second best" QB season) compared to Tim Tebow, who will never throw 20 touchdowns in a single season.
& i understand, you like to fall off into tangents, but let's just stick to what you originally said about Tim Tebow being AS successful as Tom Brady.
if you're SERIOUSLY going to tell me an overrated college star, with much less of a pocket package as Brady (less accurate, weaker arm), with a much worse team than Brady (after all, even though certain players get a mystery pass; it is a team sport right? ;)), i'm talking worse in just about every aspect of the team, who you just ADMITTED may NEVER even get the chance to be a starting QB can be AS SUCCESSFUL 3 time Super Bowl winning QB who holds the record for most TD's in a single season; i don't know if i'll ever listen to a word you say again lol.
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The second best season was Marino when he threw 48 and 5000 yards in '84.
Anyway; I never said Tebow would be as successful in the NFL. I said league for league, the college success of Tim Tebow is as good as the NFL success of any QB. Does that mean it'll translate over? Of course not. It was said in response to Brady fans that think wins are the most important thing.
But you like Brady's 07 and 50 TDs. How about Tebow's 07? In 13 games in 07 Tebow passed for 3300 yards and scored 55 touchdowns, 32 in the air and 23 on the ground, and only threw 6 interceptions. And another 900 yards rushing. All this in 13 games.
So who had the better 07 statistically?
You make Tebow seem like some junk player and that the team wins despite of him. His numbers are there. His success is there. There's no reason for a Tom Brady fan to dislike Tim Tebow. I just don't get why you do.
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--- Quote from: Shallow on April 23, 2010, 09:15:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: FUCK YOU ITS [BLUNT] TYME on April 23, 2010, 08:57:03 PM ---they sayin how he fits good wit josh mcdaniels system and how hes a 2 or 3 year project
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and they sayin exactly what I'm saying.
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He is a 2 or 3 year project which makes him a bad fit in Denver. Again, he would be a better fit on a team that has an older established vet who Tebow could sit behind...learn from...and MAYBE improve enough to eventually replace them. Not a team that is struggling with its identity at QB right NOW. Like I said before, backing up Brady...McNabb...Manning...Favre...etc, would be great for him. There would be no pressure for him to be on the field...by the fans. But in Denver, the minute their current QB (whichever one they go with) struggles...there will be calls for Tebow to get on the field. And he obviously is NOT ready for that.
As far as "they". Most of the media will continue to try and build up Tebow the best they can. Tebow is a huge draw whether he is good or he sucks. So the media WANTS that story. You think the media was doing backflips when he got drafted in the first round? lol.
Chamillitary Click:
^wins are the most important thing lol & he won't get them lol.
& if you're going to compare the half ass defenses he faced in college, with 90% of the people on the field not good enough for the NFL to Brady scoring on NFL defenses, i just don't get you lol.
Tim Tebow ran a trick play offense against the future carpenters & doctors, where Urban Meyers set up plays just to get Tebow involved in the score.
but just for your sake, let's look at that season; pretty much better than Peyton's '04 too; i guess we have a future Peyton Manning on our hands.
Tebow was the Tyler Hansborough of College Football, everybody knows that he won't be shit in the NFL, but he was the poster boy of the NCAA, setting a good example for kids; showing "what it's all about"; leaderships & playing all out every week.
look, i get it, if you can somehow make people believe Tebow & Brady are in the same boat, it will be a major accomplishment for you & your deep hatred for Thomas; so by all means make the attempts.
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