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Why LeBron Will NEVER Be Kobe...Cleveland is FINISHED.
U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E.:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 13, 2010, 08:21:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on May 13, 2010, 08:13:17 PM ---skip bayless/van gundy and other people said the cavs are deeper then the lakers and are tougher and now that queen james loss he has no help...hahahah.....he just doesnt make teammates better when it counts..kobe does, ariza was huge n the playoffs, lamar made 50% of his 3's, pau made howard look like shawn bradley, and fisher hitting big shots
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exactly, Ariza stepped it up; the players on the Cavs stepped down under pressure.
like 7even said, you're all biased as fuck; it's like trying to convince a Tupac groupie that there are better rappers than him lol.
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 13, 2010, 08:15:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 13, 2010, 05:18:19 PM ---so you're telling me the years Kobe didn't win, when he had no help, no Shaq, that you groupies didn't still call him the best player in the world?
you're logics are are fucked up; face it, you're just going to turn it which ever way you have to so Kobe looks like the best & LeBron looks like overrated trash.
LeBron doesn't show up once & his career is over. :D
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those Kobe teams weren't expected to win it all...this LeBron team was a heavy favorite to go all the way. you see the difference?
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neither was LeBron's team when he lost in the Finals vs. the Spurs & scored 29 of the Cavs final 30 points to beat the Pistons in the Eastern Conference Finals; i guess everybody just forgot about that after they started making the Kobe comparisons LMFAO.
you Laker stans are so quick to just look at one game & say "see, how the fuck can you compare him to Kobe?", like Kobe has never had an off game.
LeBron was alone last year too & won 60 games; you can try to convince me Big Z is a top 10 center & stuff, but let's be real.
he's done some ridiculous shit & you bitch about other people "discrediting Kobe". :D
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no one's discrediting lebum, but the facts & results are just that........
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 13, 2010, 08:21:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on May 13, 2010, 08:13:17 PM ---skip bayless/van gundy and other people said the cavs are deeper then the lakers and are tougher and now that queen james loss he has no help...hahahah.....he just doesnt make teammates better when it counts..kobe does, ariza was huge n the playoffs, lamar made 50% of his 3's, pau made howard look like shawn bradley, and fisher hitting big shots
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exactly, Ariza stepped it up; the players on the Cavs stepped down under pressure.
like 7even said, you're all biased as fuck; it's like trying to convince a Tupac groupie that there are better rappers than him lol.
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 13, 2010, 08:15:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 13, 2010, 05:18:19 PM ---so you're telling me the years Kobe didn't win, when he had no help, no Shaq, that you groupies didn't still call him the best player in the world?
you're logics are are fucked up; face it, you're just going to turn it which ever way you have to so Kobe looks like the best & LeBron looks like overrated trash.
LeBron doesn't show up once & his career is over. :D
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those Kobe teams weren't expected to win it all...this LeBron team was a heavy favorite to go all the way. you see the difference?
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neither was LeBron's team when he lost in the Finals vs. the Spurs & scored 29 of the Cavs final 30 points to beat the Pistons in the Eastern Conference Finals; i guess everybody just forgot about that after they started making the Kobe comparisons LMFAO.
you Laker stans are so quick to just look at one game & say "see, how the fuck can you compare him to Kobe?", like Kobe has never had an off game.
LeBron was alone last year too & won 60 games; you can try to convince me Big Z is a top 10 center & stuff, but let's be real.
he's done some ridiculous shit & you bitch about other people "discrediting Kobe". :D
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But what happened to LeBron "making all his teammates better"? That was a common notion going into this series...Coming out of the series, looks like their "leader" had them all playing WORSE. Bad look for LeBron, no way around it.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 13, 2010, 08:15:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 13, 2010, 05:18:19 PM ---so you're telling me the years Kobe didn't win, when he had no help, no Shaq, that you groupies didn't still call him the best player in the world?
you're logics are are fucked up; face it, you're just going to turn it which ever way you have to so Kobe looks like the best & LeBron looks like overrated trash.
LeBron doesn't show up once & his career is over. :D
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those Kobe teams weren't expected to win it all...this LeBron team was a heavy favorite to go all the way. you see the difference?
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So you're telling me that after the second straight Championship those Shaq Lakers weren't expected to win? And why are you so down on Shaq? The guy was far and away the best player in the league those three years and then some. Imagine the rings on Jordan's hands if he got to play in the 80s with Kareem then did what he did in the 90s?
Kobe may be the most valuable player in the league until James shows he can win it all, but at the very least even you have to admit that between Shaq was the most dominant big man in basketball and a worthy MVP. The difference between Kobe and Jordan was the only time Jordan got to play with another MVP caliber baller was at the Olympics or at night on the road when he was lonely and porn was available.
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 13, 2010, 08:23:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 13, 2010, 08:03:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on May 13, 2010, 07:56:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 13, 2010, 05:18:19 PM ---so you're telling me the years Kobe didn't win, when he had no help, no Shaq, that you groupies didn't still call him the best player in the world?
you're logics are are fucked up; face it, you're just going to turn it which ever way you have to so Kobe looks like the best & LeBron looks like overrated trash.
LeBron doesn't show up once & his career is over. :D
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i think u need to shut yo mouth rookie, i just proved my point with the cavarettes....u a done dada
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i think you completely just dodged what i said. :laugh:
Jamison: 2-10
West: 0-2
Big Z: 1-2
Varejao: 2-7
Mo Williams kind of came through in the first half & Shaq played decent.
but all in all, ZERO HELP.
LeBron, Triple-Double; 9 TO's, weak, but nobody was helping him; anybody whose not a LeBron hater can admit that; so naturally, i don't expect you to understand, because you're narrow-minded. :D
you can't just look at the score & determine whose a good player lmfao.
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LeBron is a regular season success story who doesn't know when to bring his A-Game...Always has been, and possibly always will be (unless he is capable of developing that killer instinct and getting a heart transplant lol). Really, though, can you say I didn't warn you? Cleveland has no excuse. They came in as the heavy favorites, with homecourt advantage. They came in with the best record in the league AND the best home record, as well...But there is one thing they were missing, and thats leadership. LeBron fell apart during the most vital time in his career...Honestly, the guy might need to be a second option to win it all, and that's scary to say for a guy who's that talented.
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leadership? what do you want LeBron to do? get in his teammates face & yell "HIT THE FUCKING SHOTS, BITCH!"?
i mean, what can you possibly do if they aren't stepping up?
i understand you're use to NBA All-Stars coming off the bench to sub in for elite defenders & have two seven footers, who you consider two of the best big men in the league, but maybe the supporting cast of the Cavs just wasn't as great as we thought.
there is no difference between the regular season & the post season except for additional pressure; the Cavs ran the same scheme they ran to get 60 wins, but they didn't show up, missed shots & lost.
it has nothing to do with poor leadership, nothing has changed in leadership or gameplan since the first game of the year; shit, since the first game LeBron James has played lol; they just didn't hit shots & couldn't stop the Celtics when they went on runs.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 13, 2010, 08:21:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on May 13, 2010, 08:13:17 PM ---skip bayless/van gundy and other people said the cavs are deeper then the lakers and are tougher and now that queen james loss he has no help...hahahah.....he just doesnt make teammates better when it counts..kobe does, ariza was huge n the playoffs, lamar made 50% of his 3's, pau made howard look like shawn bradley, and fisher hitting big shots
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exactly, Ariza stepped it up; the players on the Cavs stepped down under pressure.
like 7even said, you're all biased as fuck; it's like trying to convince a Tupac groupie that there are better rappers than him lol.
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 13, 2010, 08:15:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 13, 2010, 05:18:19 PM ---so you're telling me the years Kobe didn't win, when he had no help, no Shaq, that you groupies didn't still call him the best player in the world?
you're logics are are fucked up; face it, you're just going to turn it which ever way you have to so Kobe looks like the best & LeBron looks like overrated trash.
LeBron doesn't show up once & his career is over. :D
--- End quote ---
those Kobe teams weren't expected to win it all...this LeBron team was a heavy favorite to go all the way. you see the difference?
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neither was LeBron's team when he lost in the Finals vs. the Spurs & scored 29 of the Cavs final 30 points to beat the Pistons in the Eastern Conference Finals; i guess everybody just forgot about that after they started making the Kobe comparisons LMFAO.
you Laker stans are so quick to just look at one game & say "see, how the fuck can you compare him to Kobe?", like Kobe has never had an off game.
LeBron was alone last year too & won 60 games; you can try to convince me Big Z is a top 10 center & stuff, but let's be real.
he's done some ridiculous shit & you bitch about other people "discrediting Kobe". :D
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dont you get it, muthafucka? in the nba, nothing matters until you win a ring. that is what everyones playing for ....so until LeBron wins a ring, anything he does will seem like NOTHING in comparison ...to Laker fans, at least (who are used to being spoiled with championship caliber teams)
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