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Why LeBron Will NEVER Be Kobe...Cleveland is FINISHED.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: 7even on May 04, 2010, 04:02:36 PM ---Amazing. All this time went by, all these bad things happened to you on the dub and you're still exactly the same guy since ever.
With that said, LeBron is currently better than Kobe. Kobe also got slaughtered by the Celtics with an even more amazing/deeper cast.
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The same guy always making great points to put the misguided sheep in check, right? ;)
What makes LeBron better than Kobe? Until he can prove that he's not just a regular season highlight reel, he will not be comparable to a player of Kobe's status. NBA fans get way too excited, way too quick...your fickle media-guided minds have been touched. :-*
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 04, 2010, 03:58:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 04, 2010, 03:25:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 04, 2010, 02:26:27 PM ---^Wrong again. When Kobe scored 62 points in 3 quarters (outscoring the Mavs team) and followed it up with an 81 point performance while he was just entering his prime, expectations for Kobe were that he'd be the greatest individual talent ever, and that if he ever surpassed Jordan in rings, he'd be argued as the greatest of all time. When people currently talk about LeBron like that, it's laughable. Kobe still has a chance to surpass Jordan in rings, while LeBron is still looking for his first. As for makin players better, how is LeBron making Antawn Jamison or Mo Williams better?...Did Mo Williams look better last night? Did LeBron James make Ben Wallace better when he came to Cleveland? Honestly, LeBron's distribution skills aren't nearly as great as they seem, mostly because Cleveland runs an offense where every play is ran through LeBron...Mostly ISO plays for LeBron, at that, which in turn leads to him getting a ton of assists...But LeBron never took a team composed of 3 starters who dont deserve to be in an NBA rotation to the playoffs like Kobe did in 2006. Kobe made Smush Parker look legit, got Luke Walton a 5 mill per year contract, and made Kwame look like a legit starter. Kobe not only elevates the level of play of his teammates, but also the mindset as a group, and will to win with his tenacity, hunger, and HEART...PeACe
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Saying wrong again shows your insanity lol. Does it make you feel like you were right the first time? lolol
Kobe was never going to surprass Jordan. Only you Kobestans think that. Was Jordan ever the Robin on those Bulls teams? No. Kobe has played the Batman role on only 1 championship. He was the sidekick on the others. You cant compare Kobe's first three titles as a sidekick to ANY of Jordans three titles as the focal point of the entire league. You Kobe fans are just upset because Shaq brought 3 titles to LA....then he left, the team went south as you watched the Pistons, Spurs and Heat win titles. Then finally as Kobe started to shake the "he cant win without Shaq" talk...and got over the hump last year....LeBron takes over and Kobe is now "that guy who was the MVP 2 yrs ago" lol
As I said, has Lebron surpassed Kobe careerwise? Of course not. You would have to see where LeBron is in 5 years to make that assessment. But LeBron has been considered one of the top 2-3 players in the league since he hit the league. Not even the biggest Kobe dicksucker could argue that Kobe was lol. The man was traded for Vlade lol He was the 13th pick in the draft...Lebron #1. You cant say the expectations were EVER the same for these two lolol.
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Insanity...right...Kobe has been compared to Jordan by pretty much every one, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Kobe was never a "side-kick", I dont understand how a first team all-nba and first team all-defense superstar can be seen as nothing but a "robin", but I'm not surprised you say that...In reality, Kobe was the guy who had the ball in his hands when the game mattered back in the threepeat era, and he was just as vital to those championship teams as Shaq was, and Shaq has said that himself (amongst many insiders who were part of that team). Would you discredit Magic's 5 rings and say he won them as a sidekick to Kareem? Honestly, it just sounds stupid when you're speaking of two hall-of-famers who played on the same championship team and contributed just as much in their own respect. And you're right, Kobe came into the league as an unpolished bench player playing behind an all-star for a world class franchise. He was never handed anything from the beginning, he had to work his way up and get to where he is today on his own, and that's a big part of why he has that killer instinct that LeBron doesn't.
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lol Magic was the Finals MVP his rookie year.
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 04, 2010, 03:25:10 PM ---Was Jordan ever the Robin on those Bulls teams? No. Kobe has played the Batman role on only 1 championship. He was the sidekick on the others. You cant compare Kobe's first three titles as a sidekick to ANY of Jordans three titles as the focal point of the entire league.
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These aren't side kick #s:
Playoffs
2000 - 21.1 points, 4.5 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 1.5 steals
2001 - 29.4 points, 7.3 rebounds, 6.1 assists, 1.6 steals
2002 - 26.6 points, 5.8 rebounds, 4.6 assists, 1.4 steas
Let's not forget that Kobe was often the go to guy in the final minutes because opposing teams wanted to foul Shaq every time he had the ball so they could send him to the free throw line.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 04, 2010, 04:13:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 04, 2010, 03:58:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 04, 2010, 03:25:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 04, 2010, 02:26:27 PM ---^Wrong again. When Kobe scored 62 points in 3 quarters (outscoring the Mavs team) and followed it up with an 81 point performance while he was just entering his prime, expectations for Kobe were that he'd be the greatest individual talent ever, and that if he ever surpassed Jordan in rings, he'd be argued as the greatest of all time. When people currently talk about LeBron like that, it's laughable. Kobe still has a chance to surpass Jordan in rings, while LeBron is still looking for his first. As for makin players better, how is LeBron making Antawn Jamison or Mo Williams better?...Did Mo Williams look better last night? Did LeBron James make Ben Wallace better when he came to Cleveland? Honestly, LeBron's distribution skills aren't nearly as great as they seem, mostly because Cleveland runs an offense where every play is ran through LeBron...Mostly ISO plays for LeBron, at that, which in turn leads to him getting a ton of assists...But LeBron never took a team composed of 3 starters who dont deserve to be in an NBA rotation to the playoffs like Kobe did in 2006. Kobe made Smush Parker look legit, got Luke Walton a 5 mill per year contract, and made Kwame look like a legit starter. Kobe not only elevates the level of play of his teammates, but also the mindset as a group, and will to win with his tenacity, hunger, and HEART...PeACe
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Saying wrong again shows your insanity lol. Does it make you feel like you were right the first time? lolol
Kobe was never going to surprass Jordan. Only you Kobestans think that. Was Jordan ever the Robin on those Bulls teams? No. Kobe has played the Batman role on only 1 championship. He was the sidekick on the others. You cant compare Kobe's first three titles as a sidekick to ANY of Jordans three titles as the focal point of the entire league. You Kobe fans are just upset because Shaq brought 3 titles to LA....then he left, the team went south as you watched the Pistons, Spurs and Heat win titles. Then finally as Kobe started to shake the "he cant win without Shaq" talk...and got over the hump last year....LeBron takes over and Kobe is now "that guy who was the MVP 2 yrs ago" lol
As I said, has Lebron surpassed Kobe careerwise? Of course not. You would have to see where LeBron is in 5 years to make that assessment. But LeBron has been considered one of the top 2-3 players in the league since he hit the league. Not even the biggest Kobe dicksucker could argue that Kobe was lol. The man was traded for Vlade lol He was the 13th pick in the draft...Lebron #1. You cant say the expectations were EVER the same for these two lolol.
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Insanity...right...Kobe has been compared to Jordan by pretty much every one, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Kobe was never a "side-kick", I dont understand how a first team all-nba and first team all-defense superstar can be seen as nothing but a "robin", but I'm not surprised you say that...In reality, Kobe was the guy who had the ball in his hands when the game mattered back in the threepeat era, and he was just as vital to those championship teams as Shaq was, and Shaq has said that himself (amongst many insiders who were part of that team). Would you discredit Magic's 5 rings and say he won them as a sidekick to Kareem? Honestly, it just sounds stupid when you're speaking of two hall-of-famers who played on the same championship team and contributed just as much in their own respect. And you're right, Kobe came into the league as an unpolished bench player playing behind an all-star for a world class franchise. He was never handed anything from the beginning, he had to work his way up and get to where he is today on his own, and that's a big part of why he has that killer instinct that LeBron doesn't.
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lol Magic was the Finals MVP his rookie year.
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That's because Kareem didn't play...had Kareem played, Kareem would have been Finals MVP, and people with your mindset woulda thought "oh yea, Magic won, but he was just a sidekick to Kareem"...That's simply not how it works when you got two all-time GOATs on one team.
Chamillitary Click:
Why LeBron will NEVER Be Kobe...
1) he will never have Shaq in his prime.
2) he will never have Ron Artest (elite defender), Pau Gasol (top big man according to NIK), Andrew Bynum (future Wilt Chamberlain according to NIK) & Lamaar Odom coming off the bench for him.
we all saw the year Shaq left & the Lakers finished .500. ;)
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