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King Tech Quadafi:
in the 19th century Europeans were fixated with the idea of colonizing the heathen, Mohameden world and saving them with Christianity

Now, the same principles apply but this time its "democracy" thats the ideal being pushed upon these "savages" that need to be saved

the more things change, the more they stay the same

Don Jacob:
so are you trying to say the world would function better as comunists or by 'devine right rule' ?

infinite59:

--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on December 09, 2002, 12:39:17 AM ---so are you trying to say the world would function better as comunists or by 'devine right rule' ?

--- End quote ---

Actually communism isn't a government it's an economic system.  And when you say devine rule you probably mistake that for being religious facism but in places like Pakistan the Christian minority is respected and protected.

Now, I think democracy is a good system.  But understand that you can have a socialist or communist economy and still be a democracy.  

America's capatalist economy and republic government looks like a better system than it really is.  First we exploited the Indians to survive, then the African slaves, and now it's a global economy where we use our military and imperialistic powers to usurp other nations resources.

Woodrow:

--- Quote from: Infinite Ibrahim Abdul Hamid on December 09, 2002, 02:27:23 AM ---but in places like Pakistan the Christian minority is respected and protected.

--- End quote ---
WRONG

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/08/05/pakistan.school/index.html
Six people are dead and at least three wounded after several gunmen attacked a Christian school in a popular mountain resort in Pakistan

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/08/09/pakistan.attack/index.html
Four people have been killed in a grenade attack on a missionary hospital near Islamabad, the second assault on a Christian institution in Pakistan in less than a week.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/south/10/28/pak.christian.shooting/index.html
Condemning Sunday's massacre of 16 Christian worshippers, Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf blamed "trained terrorists" for the slaying and vowed justice would be served.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/09/29/pakistan.church.bomb/index.html
Authorities found an explosive device near a church in the central Pakistani town of Kohlo, according to a spokesman for the country's Interior Ministry.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/09/25/pakistan.attack/index.html
In the latest incident of anti-Christian violence in Pakistan, gunmen have killed seven workers at a Christian charity office in Karachi, binding the hands and mouths of some before shooting them at close range

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/03/17/pakistan.church.0900/index.html
At least five people have been killed and scores of others injured in a grenade attack Sunday on a church in the diplomatic quarter of the Pakistani capital, Islamabad.


Woodrow:
And lets not forget this article that Overseer posted up:
PLIGHT OF WHITE MUSLIMS IN PAKISTAN

By Zahrah Nasir, Dawn Magazine Nov 25

When I converted to Islam back in 1983, never for a single moment did
I dream that I would face persecution by fellow Muslims. My crime is
that I have white skin. Nothing I do can change this stark fact of
life, although Islam is not, and never has been, a colour-coded
religion.

The Muslims of Bosnia, Turkey and Central Asia are the same colour as
myself, while not all Arabic or Persian-speaking people are exactly
brown. Chinese and Indonesian Muslims are another hue altogether and
many African Muslims are black.

Yet, here in Pakistan the general belief is that you can only be a
Muslim if you are one of the many shades of brown which abound here.

My white skin immediately labels me as a foreigner. However, I am not
a foreigner but a patriotic Pakistani and extremely proud of the green
passport which I obtained, by marriage, over ten years ago.

To cut a long story short, I converted to Islam whilst travelling with
the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, my conversion had nothing to do with my
husband whom I didn't meet until two years later. It is a decision
which I would never think of going back on. It was also my choice to
become a Pakistan national.

The first time I was made aware that white Muslims are viewed
differently than brown ones was when we went to get married at the
Sharia Court in Muscat in the Sultanate of Oman in 1985. The Grand
Mufti of Oman was present at the time and promptly demanded to know
where was the paper that said I was a Muslim. I asked him where was
his, as isn't everyone born a Muslim. He, needless to say, didn't have
such a document but still refused to marry us without converting me
again and issuing the necessary document. A Muslim twice over!

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