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Where's the Music?
Trauma-san:
I touched on this in my beatles topic, but yall tell me. Am I just getting old? It's like music just is nowhere near the level now that it was years ago. Look back. And think about what's going on right now... Music is in a stagnant state. Just look back a little bit.
95 - Tupac, Biggie, Smashing Pumpkins, Garth Brooks, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, and Oasis all ruled music. All talented, every one of them was doing nothing but putting out classic music. Stuff that's gonna get played for years, these guys were making legends out of themselves. And don't downplay Garth Brook's importance, he single handedly revolutionized Country music, He flipped Nashville on it's ear, and made all that redneck music new and fresh again, mixing rock and blues in and just totally changing the landscape. Yall all know what Pac and Biggie did, and the Pumpkins and Nirvana REVOLUTIONIZED music... Nirvana is like the 90's version of the beatles.
92-94 - Dre, Snoop, Michael Jackson, Alice In Chains, Metallica, and the emergence of Hip Hop - yall know what all these guys did, but in this era, music was just poppin, stuff was happening, hiphop was finally getting mainstream acceptance, radio was amazing then.
80's - Lots of crappy bands, but some good bands - The Police, U2, NWA, Billy Joel, Cyndi Lauper, The Eurythmics, Michael Jackson, George Strait, Randy Travis, Elton John, Run DMC - The roots of hiphop, a few good rock bands, but in my opinion, generally a low point in music. Everythign was material, sure, we all have favorite songs from the 80's, but all in all, most of it was Sh*t.
70's - R&B flourished, the era of the Singer/Songwriters - Van Morrison, Billy Joel, Eric Clapton, Marvin Gaye, Elton John, Carol King, Bob Dylan, Conway Twitty, Dolly Parton, George Jones, Carly Simon, Crosby, Stills, and Nash, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison - Singer Songwriters came through with the most soulfull important music of alltime, probably 60% of the stuff out then was all classic, R&B was on a while nother level, the great soul bands out were just amazing. Nothing but quality pretty much in the 70's
Trauma-san:
Late 60's - Motown, the Beatles, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Loving Spoonful, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, The Jackson 5 - Quality. You can take almost any song by any performer from the late 60's, and it'll be solid all the way through. Well written, and the birth of the song... before this, songs were all love songs to nobody.
Early 60's - Motown, Elvis, Etta James, Crooners, Frank Sinatra - Quality stuff, and nobody's gonna talk bad about these songs, but they didn't have the substance of later stuff. Most of the stuff was Rhythmic, and you had the birth of motown, with Smokey Robinson and the Supremes. Tons of great music, from tons of great musicians.
Late 50's - Elvis, Chuck Berry, Hank Williams, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis - everybody knows what 50's music sounded like. It was all pop, but all classic stuff by now... tons of people got famous off 1 song in the 50's, and Rock and Roll was born, bringing with it what would bring Country, Hip Hop, R&B, Soul, all this into the forefront of music. Rock and Roll started all this we're living in today.. .other music was around, but Rock and Roll is what got it all into our living rooms.
40's and early 50's - Doo Wop music, Jazz, Crooners, Frank Sinatra - this was the age of the vocalists, groups of guys that could sing and harmonize. Moodys Mood for Love.
What the hell are we gonna remember about music right now? Nelly? There ain't SH*T out doing anything right now. I'm white, and most of the guys that are carrying Rock and Country are a disgrace to the Race. Hiphop is about the only thing doing anything important, and there's only a few good artists out in hiphop right now. What do yall think? Am I just getting old? LOL or am I cleanly seeing that music right now just pretty much sucks.
Kaidy:
yea i feel the same way sometimes, music sucks. You have to blame the industry, the corporate machine. They've just brainwashed people to support the lowest common denominator. It's too difficult to make something different or new, so they just put out all this watered down nonsense. But i don't know, maybe people, musicians included, are just getting dumber. No one wants to challenge anything, they're too content with things I guess. The majority of people just want to party. Perhaps they're blinded from real issues.
The only person making revolutionary music right now is Eminem imo, but even he has to cater to the dumbed-down audience to some extent. How many people who bought Eminem Show really listen to his provocative anti-government anti-system lyrics; and how many bought it just because they like his hair?
Trauma-san:
Yup, Exactly. In my perfect musical world, LOL Eminem would be one of hundreds doing stuff like that.
but check this...
Back in the 60's, You had Motown... Motown was GREAT! They had a team of guys that wrote all the songs. All the acts, or most, were stuck together, they had talent, sure, they could sing, and dance, but really... weren't many of them prodigys (Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, and Michael Jackson excluded of course). How come the formula was so dope back then, but now it sucks? I can listen to motown for a week straight. Motown can make me cry, can make me dance, can make me sing along, can make me think, can make me happy, sad.
Backstreet Boys, NSync, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera and the other 1000 never, ever move me. Why is that? I just don't get it. I don't understand why music sucks so much right now.
Kaidy:
Good point. Perhaps its because when Motown were doing it, the formula was new and original. But the labels now are copying what they did so well back then. Originality is always better than repetition.
Or maybe because today's pop music is targeted so heavily at very young kids, wya younger than Motown's target audience, which I believe was more young adults.
i'm just guessing tho
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