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My new favorite anti Laker argument
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 12:02:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 11:51:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 10:38:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on June 01, 2010, 09:43:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 04:14:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 01, 2010, 02:59:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 11:08:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Jaydc is dying everyday on June 01, 2010, 10:44:56 AM ---The grizzlies was an absolute clusterfuck by the NBA.Lets face it they were terrible and for good reason.Absurd handicaps on the franchise didnt allow them to pick 1st overall even though they had the worst record in basketball for a few years straight.So instead of being able to draft Tim duncan 1st overall,they got the 4th pick and got antonio daniels who was a bust.I mean if your trying to expand into a new market and the team is terrible you would think they would allow them to be able to draft the best players but no they these absurd rules that disallowed them from having the first pick
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Yet the Lakers could draft Magic back when they already had Jabbar :D Or draft Jerry West back when they already had Elgin Baylor.
Shit is not fair!
--- End quote ---
The Lakers went 25-50 before drafting West with the 2nd pick, dipshit.
--- End quote ---
LOL stop getting provoked so easily.
How have they went before drafting Magic with the 1st pick? :D
--- End quote ---
Lakers have always had great management. They mastered trades for picks, and the Lakers have made the most of the late draft. Too bad other franchises don't run like the Lakers.
--- End quote ---
lol its not JUST about how they are run. The Spurs are run just as well...but agents will tell their clients to go to LA before San Antonio or anywhere really. The media exposure, celebrity atmosphere...etc makes it far more desireable for bigtime players. San Antonio has been amazing in the draft for the fact that they typically dont get picks anywhere in the first half of rounds (except Duncan). Its free agency where LA has the big advantage. Whats the last draft pick the Lakers have had that was really amazing? Kobe?
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The Lakers didn't draft Kobe and they have had only one high draft pick (higher then #19th pick) in the last 15 years.
Lower round picks in the last 15: Fisher (#24), Devean George (#23), Walton (#32), and M. Gasol (#48).
--- End quote ---
I know they didnt draft him. I wasnt saying that they did. But they traded for him immediately. which is essentially the same thing as trading for the pick..and drafting him. Regardless my point was that it isnt the draft so much where they have done well. Its with free agency, etc.
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Well if you look at their current roster, Artest is the only one of any significance that was picked up via free agency. Bryant, Gasol, Odom, and Brown were traded for. Fisher, Bynum, Walton, Farmar, and Vujacic were drafted.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 12:22:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 12:02:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 11:51:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 10:38:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on June 01, 2010, 09:43:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 04:14:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 01, 2010, 02:59:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 11:08:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Jaydc is dying everyday on June 01, 2010, 10:44:56 AM ---The grizzlies was an absolute clusterfuck by the NBA.Lets face it they were terrible and for good reason.Absurd handicaps on the franchise didnt allow them to pick 1st overall even though they had the worst record in basketball for a few years straight.So instead of being able to draft Tim duncan 1st overall,they got the 4th pick and got antonio daniels who was a bust.I mean if your trying to expand into a new market and the team is terrible you would think they would allow them to be able to draft the best players but no they these absurd rules that disallowed them from having the first pick
--- End quote ---
Yet the Lakers could draft Magic back when they already had Jabbar :D Or draft Jerry West back when they already had Elgin Baylor.
Shit is not fair!
--- End quote ---
The Lakers went 25-50 before drafting West with the 2nd pick, dipshit.
--- End quote ---
LOL stop getting provoked so easily.
How have they went before drafting Magic with the 1st pick? :D
--- End quote ---
Lakers have always had great management. They mastered trades for picks, and the Lakers have made the most of the late draft. Too bad other franchises don't run like the Lakers.
--- End quote ---
lol its not JUST about how they are run. The Spurs are run just as well...but agents will tell their clients to go to LA before San Antonio or anywhere really. The media exposure, celebrity atmosphere...etc makes it far more desireable for bigtime players. San Antonio has been amazing in the draft for the fact that they typically dont get picks anywhere in the first half of rounds (except Duncan). Its free agency where LA has the big advantage. Whats the last draft pick the Lakers have had that was really amazing? Kobe?
--- End quote ---
The Lakers didn't draft Kobe and they have had only one high draft pick (higher then #19th pick) in the last 15 years.
Lower round picks in the last 15: Fisher (#24), Devean George (#23), Walton (#32), and M. Gasol (#48).
--- End quote ---
I know they didnt draft him. I wasnt saying that they did. But they traded for him immediately. which is essentially the same thing as trading for the pick..and drafting him. Regardless my point was that it isnt the draft so much where they have done well. Its with free agency, etc.
--- End quote ---
Well if you look at their current roster, Artest is the only one of any significance that was picked up via free agency. Bryant, Gasol, Odom, and Brown were traded for. Fisher, Bynum, Walton, Farmar, and Vujacic were drafted.
--- End quote ---
thus the "etc".
And Im not only referring to this current Laker squad but Laker squads of the last decade. The current Laker squad hasnt gotten shit from the draft. Bynum is ok when he can stay on the floor. But he is too early in his career to even judge with the time he has missed. Shaquille O'neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, etc...all high profile free agents joining the Lakers. Im not sure why youre arguin with me, maybe you think Im dissin the lakers lol. Im just pointing out that the draft isnt where they have really made things happen like M-Dogg was sayin.
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 12:38:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 12:22:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 12:02:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 11:51:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 10:38:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on June 01, 2010, 09:43:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 04:14:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 01, 2010, 02:59:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 11:08:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Jaydc is dying everyday on June 01, 2010, 10:44:56 AM ---The grizzlies was an absolute clusterfuck by the NBA.Lets face it they were terrible and for good reason.Absurd handicaps on the franchise didnt allow them to pick 1st overall even though they had the worst record in basketball for a few years straight.So instead of being able to draft Tim duncan 1st overall,they got the 4th pick and got antonio daniels who was a bust.I mean if your trying to expand into a new market and the team is terrible you would think they would allow them to be able to draft the best players but no they these absurd rules that disallowed them from having the first pick
--- End quote ---
Yet the Lakers could draft Magic back when they already had Jabbar :D Or draft Jerry West back when they already had Elgin Baylor.
Shit is not fair!
--- End quote ---
The Lakers went 25-50 before drafting West with the 2nd pick, dipshit.
--- End quote ---
LOL stop getting provoked so easily.
How have they went before drafting Magic with the 1st pick? :D
--- End quote ---
Lakers have always had great management. They mastered trades for picks, and the Lakers have made the most of the late draft. Too bad other franchises don't run like the Lakers.
--- End quote ---
lol its not JUST about how they are run. The Spurs are run just as well...but agents will tell their clients to go to LA before San Antonio or anywhere really. The media exposure, celebrity atmosphere...etc makes it far more desireable for bigtime players. San Antonio has been amazing in the draft for the fact that they typically dont get picks anywhere in the first half of rounds (except Duncan). Its free agency where LA has the big advantage. Whats the last draft pick the Lakers have had that was really amazing? Kobe?
--- End quote ---
The Lakers didn't draft Kobe and they have had only one high draft pick (higher then #19th pick) in the last 15 years.
Lower round picks in the last 15: Fisher (#24), Devean George (#23), Walton (#32), and M. Gasol (#48).
--- End quote ---
I know they didnt draft him. I wasnt saying that they did. But they traded for him immediately. which is essentially the same thing as trading for the pick..and drafting him. Regardless my point was that it isnt the draft so much where they have done well. Its with free agency, etc.
--- End quote ---
Well if you look at their current roster, Artest is the only one of any significance that was picked up via free agency. Bryant, Gasol, Odom, and Brown were traded for. Fisher, Bynum, Walton, Farmar, and Vujacic were drafted.
--- End quote ---
thus the "etc".
And Im not only referring to this current Laker squad but Laker squads of the last decade. The current Laker squad hasnt gotten shit from the draft. Bynum is ok when he can stay on the floor. But he is too early in his career to even judge with the time he has missed. Shaquille O'neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, etc...all high profile free agents joining the Lakers. Im not sure why youre arguin with me, maybe you think Im dissin the lakers lol. Im just pointing out that the draft isnt where they have really made things happen like M-Dogg was sayin.
--- End quote ---
Malone and Payton came to the Lakers so they can have a shot with a contender, not because of L.A.'s atmosphere. Shaq is the only won who did that recently.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 12:45:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 12:38:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 12:22:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 12:02:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 11:51:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 10:38:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on June 01, 2010, 09:43:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 04:14:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 01, 2010, 02:59:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 11:08:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Jaydc is dying everyday on June 01, 2010, 10:44:56 AM ---The grizzlies was an absolute clusterfuck by the NBA.Lets face it they were terrible and for good reason.Absurd handicaps on the franchise didnt allow them to pick 1st overall even though they had the worst record in basketball for a few years straight.So instead of being able to draft Tim duncan 1st overall,they got the 4th pick and got antonio daniels who was a bust.I mean if your trying to expand into a new market and the team is terrible you would think they would allow them to be able to draft the best players but no they these absurd rules that disallowed them from having the first pick
--- End quote ---
Yet the Lakers could draft Magic back when they already had Jabbar :D Or draft Jerry West back when they already had Elgin Baylor.
Shit is not fair!
--- End quote ---
The Lakers went 25-50 before drafting West with the 2nd pick, dipshit.
--- End quote ---
LOL stop getting provoked so easily.
How have they went before drafting Magic with the 1st pick? :D
--- End quote ---
Lakers have always had great management. They mastered trades for picks, and the Lakers have made the most of the late draft. Too bad other franchises don't run like the Lakers.
--- End quote ---
lol its not JUST about how they are run. The Spurs are run just as well...but agents will tell their clients to go to LA before San Antonio or anywhere really. The media exposure, celebrity atmosphere...etc makes it far more desireable for bigtime players. San Antonio has been amazing in the draft for the fact that they typically dont get picks anywhere in the first half of rounds (except Duncan). Its free agency where LA has the big advantage. Whats the last draft pick the Lakers have had that was really amazing? Kobe?
--- End quote ---
The Lakers didn't draft Kobe and they have had only one high draft pick (higher then #19th pick) in the last 15 years.
Lower round picks in the last 15: Fisher (#24), Devean George (#23), Walton (#32), and M. Gasol (#48).
--- End quote ---
I know they didnt draft him. I wasnt saying that they did. But they traded for him immediately. which is essentially the same thing as trading for the pick..and drafting him. Regardless my point was that it isnt the draft so much where they have done well. Its with free agency, etc.
--- End quote ---
Well if you look at their current roster, Artest is the only one of any significance that was picked up via free agency. Bryant, Gasol, Odom, and Brown were traded for. Fisher, Bynum, Walton, Farmar, and Vujacic were drafted.
--- End quote ---
thus the "etc".
And Im not only referring to this current Laker squad but Laker squads of the last decade. The current Laker squad hasnt gotten shit from the draft. Bynum is ok when he can stay on the floor. But he is too early in his career to even judge with the time he has missed. Shaquille O'neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, etc...all high profile free agents joining the Lakers. Im not sure why youre arguin with me, maybe you think Im dissin the lakers lol. Im just pointing out that the draft isnt where they have really made things happen like M-Dogg was sayin.
--- End quote ---
Malone and Payton came to the Lakers so they can have a shot with a contender, not because of L.A.'s atmosphere. Shaq is the only won who did that recently.
--- End quote ---
Youre arguing just to argue at this point.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 01:03:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 12:45:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 12:38:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 12:22:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 12:02:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 03, 2010, 11:51:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 03, 2010, 10:38:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on June 01, 2010, 09:43:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 04:14:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on June 01, 2010, 02:59:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 01, 2010, 11:08:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Jaydc is dying everyday on June 01, 2010, 10:44:56 AM ---The grizzlies was an absolute clusterfuck by the NBA.Lets face it they were terrible and for good reason.Absurd handicaps on the franchise didnt allow them to pick 1st overall even though they had the worst record in basketball for a few years straight.So instead of being able to draft Tim duncan 1st overall,they got the 4th pick and got antonio daniels who was a bust.I mean if your trying to expand into a new market and the team is terrible you would think they would allow them to be able to draft the best players but no they these absurd rules that disallowed them from having the first pick
--- End quote ---
Yet the Lakers could draft Magic back when they already had Jabbar :D Or draft Jerry West back when they already had Elgin Baylor.
Shit is not fair!
--- End quote ---
The Lakers went 25-50 before drafting West with the 2nd pick, dipshit.
--- End quote ---
LOL stop getting provoked so easily.
How have they went before drafting Magic with the 1st pick? :D
--- End quote ---
Lakers have always had great management. They mastered trades for picks, and the Lakers have made the most of the late draft. Too bad other franchises don't run like the Lakers.
--- End quote ---
lol its not JUST about how they are run. The Spurs are run just as well...but agents will tell their clients to go to LA before San Antonio or anywhere really. The media exposure, celebrity atmosphere...etc makes it far more desireable for bigtime players. San Antonio has been amazing in the draft for the fact that they typically dont get picks anywhere in the first half of rounds (except Duncan). Its free agency where LA has the big advantage. Whats the last draft pick the Lakers have had that was really amazing? Kobe?
--- End quote ---
The Lakers didn't draft Kobe and they have had only one high draft pick (higher then #19th pick) in the last 15 years.
Lower round picks in the last 15: Fisher (#24), Devean George (#23), Walton (#32), and M. Gasol (#48).
--- End quote ---
I know they didnt draft him. I wasnt saying that they did. But they traded for him immediately. which is essentially the same thing as trading for the pick..and drafting him. Regardless my point was that it isnt the draft so much where they have done well. Its with free agency, etc.
--- End quote ---
Well if you look at their current roster, Artest is the only one of any significance that was picked up via free agency. Bryant, Gasol, Odom, and Brown were traded for. Fisher, Bynum, Walton, Farmar, and Vujacic were drafted.
--- End quote ---
thus the "etc".
And Im not only referring to this current Laker squad but Laker squads of the last decade. The current Laker squad hasnt gotten shit from the draft. Bynum is ok when he can stay on the floor. But he is too early in his career to even judge with the time he has missed. Shaquille O'neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, etc...all high profile free agents joining the Lakers. Im not sure why youre arguin with me, maybe you think Im dissin the lakers lol. Im just pointing out that the draft isnt where they have really made things happen like M-Dogg was sayin.
--- End quote ---
Malone and Payton came to the Lakers so they can have a shot with a contender, not because of L.A.'s atmosphere. Shaq is the only won who did that recently.
--- End quote ---
Youre arguing just to argue at this point.
--- End quote ---
I think though the Lakers are much better at trades than free agency. They traded for Kobe, they traded for Gasol. The biggest free agents they have signed have been Shaq, Payton and Malone for a year, and Ron Artest. But LA is much better at trades to gain key players and drafting their role players.
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