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EMINEM - RECOVERY (Official Discussion)
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 07, 2010, 11:22:48 PM ---You guys really need to go download Bob Dylan's first 5 albums. What's the point of debating music if all you like is the novelty of it. "It's got a good beat I can bump to it". If music doesn't speak to me I don't want to hear it. That being said, nothing on Recovery "speaks" to me. And I don't mean some pseudo serious diatribe about changing the world. Just give me something real, and I'm sorry but Wild Wild West ain't it. If it's not coming from the heart then what is the point. And I don't just mean lyrics.
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Kill You isn't from the heart and doesn't speak to anyone. As a matter of fact most of Eminem's music isn't intended to be taken seriously. I don't see how you can feel that way and still be a fan of Eminem considering a lot of his music is made for its shock value.
Music is music because of the way it sounds. Lyrics that "speak to you" won't make a song a good piece of music. You also need it to sound good. While I agree that the best songs can do both, production is always more important when it comes to music. Real lyrics over shitty production doesn't make better music than "fake" lyrics over great production. After all, if it were just about the lyrics we might as well all go and listen to spoken word artists and forget this hip hop nonsense.
LyRiCaL_G:
Only just heard this once, not fully through, skipped midway through some tracks but im kinda impressed. It gets weaker near the end but even then there are some strong tracks near the end like almost famous, that shits dope!
The lil wayne track really suprised me, that shits straight fire! Lil wayne came good and not only that he actually fits the track perfect and eminem spittin like he on crack or some shit, straight dope. and the adilibs really blend in with the vibe of the track well.
Only one spin thus far but im impressed with it. Will do a review when i get to check it properly but it looks good.
On a side note, i think im the only person who still has not heard the nas/damien marlry album. I aint downloading that and i aint got around to coppin it yet! grrrr
LyRiCaL_G:
On a side note, dres production on eminems first two albums was brilliant, agree though ever since eminem show, dres work with eminem has not been great at all.
Portugoal:
I haven't read this thread, but I will read (some) replies after this one.
Is this worth downloading? I haven't heard a single song from this yet, but I'm not interested either. Should I keep it that way?
TDOT:
On the second day and my second complete listen (in 320kbps), I'm really starting to like it. It's like, ya it's a lot different than Em's previous work, but it's still a great CD regardless. I'm liking some of the tracks that I didn't care much for yesterday (Cindarella Man, 25 To Life). Still don't care for W.T.P., Seduction and the Rihanna track, which just so happens to be the next single. I'm pretty sure that's some Khalil production on Cindarella Man featuring The New Royales.
And in terms of the No Love sample, I actually started laughing when I realized they were gonna be sampling that throughout the song, don't think I ever heard that in a rap song before, which made it cool with me. That was Just Blaze?? I'll say it again though, putting Wayne on as the only rapper featured was a slap in the face to everyone else on Aftermath/Shady/Interscope. And giving him the first verse?! It was a good track, but that kind of stuff I just don't understand.
Also, the Drake comparisions are only being made because he's the only other "hottest" rapper out right now, and they happen to be dropping on the same day. But in the end, you guys are right, no comparision needed here.
--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 08, 2010, 08:52:11 AM ---On a side note, dres production on eminems first two albums was brilliant, agree though ever since eminem show, dres work with eminem has not been great at all.
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Really? You didn't like Relapse's production? That had to have been one of the best produced rap albums of the decade! Just the way it was so theatrically/dark sounding, all flowing together and just plain sounded miles ahead of everything else to me. And THAT is Dre's new sound by the way, for anyone thinking he's still on all that piano/strings shit.
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