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EMINEM - RECOVERY (Official Discussion)
Jaydc:
Its like eminem saw that people loved the forever verse and all that and saw how many people complimented his flow so he decided to make the whole album like that.Bad choice.
dubsmith_nz:
Downloading this now, 70mb for the whole album, is that the versions everyones got?
Reviews seem a bit 50/50, suprised about the reviews of the beats, I guess Dre didn't have a hand in mixing?
Will give my verdict whenever I get to listen
Chamillitary Click:
the production was worse than Relapse because the lack of Dre; but on the other hand, the production had a nice sound to it & fit the album.
i disagree on the hooks; sure they weren't good, but i don't think they were "awful/song ruining"; but to each his own.
when "Not Afraid" dropped, i pointed out that he had been using that "aggressive flow" since he released Relapse & how i was worried every song was going to have it & everybody was like "how you going to hate on it? blah blah blah", so now fuck all of you lol; & what are you going to do? hate on every song because they have a similar tone to them? i'm just tight he used it for the Proof song.
Chamillitary Click:
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--- Quote from: Action! on June 07, 2010, 08:02:53 PM ---Cham, as I recall, correct me if I'm wrong, you don't like Drake's singing but Em gets a pass?
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Drake has entire songs of him just singing & he's not much of a singer.
Drake singing on the hook is a million times Eminem, but Drake singing on a whole RnB song compared to other RnB singers is a joke.
i don't know what's so bad about Eminem's singing; it fits the song.
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I kind of like Drake's singing. Much more than his rapping anyway.
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agreed, but that just shows how badly his rapping is. :D
TDOT:
As most of you, i was pretty surprised about a quarter through. It sounded like it was gonnaa be some ill shit, but i don't know, after listening to the whole thing, it seems like most of the songs were sounding the same (and not in a "concept" type way). It was only one listen though, and nothing was bad. Still, on the other hand, nothing was real good. At least when Relapse came out, the beats were fuckin nuts. Recovery has to have the worst beats yet for an Eminem album by far, but I don't think a lot of the critics really care about production, which is fuckin sad. Here's what I recall, much should change after some more listens:
-The one with kobe was easily the best, and that's one of the few I can see still liking 10 years from now. As you guys were saying, nothing on here is comparable to those classic Em tracks, but then again, nothing on Relapse was either.
-Going Thru Changes was cool, Almost Famous was cool, the bonus track was cool, On Fire was cool.
-The Just Bllaze tracks were nice, but in terms of the production, nothing special from him.
-I didn't mind the Wayne track...but like anyone with a brain, I couldn't help but wonder why the fuck LIL WAYNE was the only rapper featured on the allbum?! For godsakes, your fucking EMINEM! You can have anyone in the fuckin world on a track with you, and LIL WAYNE? At least get someone from Aftermath or Shady, damn.
-W.T.P. had to have been easily the worst track on the album, I mean, this just sucked bigtime. Beat/lyrics/everything.
-Space Bound was cool, I wasn't feeling Cindarella Man much. Don't see why some of you are in love with these two, but not some of the others.
-The Khalil beats were decent for his standards. But like Just Blaze, a little upsetting.
-I agree with the singing part. It's like Eminem is trying to fit in with the Drakes & Waynes of the industry at the moment, but I don't think he realizes that he IS the biggest figure at the moment. But his singing isn't that bad though, so I don't mind it much.
Overall, I guess it's up there with The Eminem Show, but that albums good tracks SMASH this albums best tracks. On the other hand, that album had some real shitty tracks, while I didn't think anything was real bad on this besides W.T.P., which still wasn't THAT bad.
Oh, and it's pretty obvious the Dre track is So Bad. Which is actually in the top 3 for me on this one (most likely due to the production). But still...only one fuckin Dre beat on an Aftermath album!?!?...and an Eminemm album!?!?...I wonder how much Dre really had to do with this album, just like BISD, and just like the supposed RED Album. What the fuck is going on at Aftermath? Nobody making songs together anymore, Dre not fucking with his own guys no more, shits not looking good...but then again, Dre could easily be letting these guys take care of themselves under his label. Or maybe he had more the do than I think, but I doubt it. Still...it's just not what it used to be where Dre would take control of the album (exec.) and just completely turn the thing into a masterpiece (most of the time).
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