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The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES:

--- Quote from: Action! on June 14, 2010, 06:06:26 AM ---I'm sorry with some MCs, when you put their wack material in contrast to all of hip-hop, it's not really wack.


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Whack music is whack music.  Again, an artist shouldn't get a pass just because of past accolades.  You have to earn the praise of your music, each and every time.

Action!:
I will not argue that Recovery's content is more digestible or relateable but to say Relapse had no content is wrong.

3 A.M: return of Shady, Eminem's alter ego that promotes self-destructive habits

My Mom: review of his mother but instead of completely blaming her he attempts to relate to her issues because he sees how he is like her

Insane: a story of being raped by his father (I don't know how true any of this is.  I know he said it's not real but one must wonder. Maybe it's a metaphor for the lack of a father figure in his life.)

Bagpipes From Baghdad: Mariah Carey & Nick Cannon diss

Hello: discussion of his drug addiction and the creation of shady

Same Song and Dance: a story about killing pop stars (a review of his disses against pop icons)

Medicine Ball: controversial lyrics for attention

Stay Wide Awake: the craziness of his mind

I can go on but each record has a concept and is about something, even if you can't relate to it.   The major difference I see in content is that on Recovery it's more a tell all situation where he doesn't use metaphors and assumes the consumer is too stupid to follow along.  Hence, instead of letting you assume he's talking about hip-hop on 25 to Life he tells you he's talking about hip-hop.


Action!:

--- Quote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on June 14, 2010, 09:39:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Action! on June 14, 2010, 06:06:26 AM ---I'm sorry with some MCs, when you put their wack material in contrast to all of hip-hop, it's not really wack.


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Whack music is whack music.  Again, an artist shouldn't get a pass just because of past accolades.  You have to earn the praise of your music, each and every time.

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I know you feel that way so it's cool.  I'm not really looking for a prolonged discussion but I do disagree. 

Let me just get this out of the way, I don't listen to music like you do.   I rarely every just hear "bad music" and then "good music."  In all, or most music, I can see positive qualities and then negative qualities.  There's a lot of music released and will continue to be released.  Just because an artist releases a poor album (for them) it doesn't mean it's wack on the scale of music.  I don't think it justifies them getting a pass and slacking but it doesn't mean that the poorer material they have is so bad it's wack.   That's all I feel like typing about this.  Hope you grasp what I'm conveying and how I listen to music.

J$crILLa:

--- Quote from: Action! on June 14, 2010, 09:54:59 PM ---I will not argue that Recovery's content is more digestible or relateable but to say Relapse had no content is wrong.

3 A.M: return of Shady, Eminem's alter ego that promotes self-destructive habits

My Mom: review of his mother but instead of completely blaming her he attempts to relate to her issues because he sees how he is like her

Insane: a story of being raped by his father (I don't know how true any of this is.  I know he said it's not real but one must wonder. Maybe it's a metaphor for the lack of a father figure in his life.)

Bagpipes From Baghdad: Mariah Carey & Nick Cannon diss

Hello: discussion of his drug addiction and the creation of shady

Same Song and Dance: a story about killing pop stars (a review of his disses against pop icons)

Medicine Ball: controversial lyrics for attention

Stay Wide Awake: the craziness of his mind

I can go on but each record has a concept and is about something, even if you can't relate to it.   The major difference I see in content is that on Recovery it's more a tell all situation where he doesn't use metaphors and assumes the consumer is too stupid to follow along.  Hence, instead of letting you assume he's talking about hip-hop on 25 to Life he tells you he's talking about hip-hop.




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i agree

recovery isnt a bad album its just no where as good as relapse. i got about 5 songs to skip on recovery compared to just 1 on replapse and thats cuz its the single and i get sick of the single. and relapse is great album that flows from song 2 song the whole album. recovery is ehhhhh ok but the bad songs ruin the flow of the album- in fact im going to make my own version of the album removing the songs i cant stand. (the pink song, the rihanna song, the wayne song, the sudcution song... and couple more... )

and to whoever said recovery isnt more commercial. umm are listening to th same album,. its his more commercially safe album to date./

westside159:
Worst songs on recovery  i mean there are some terrible songs
WTP -  WTF
so bad -  sounds like a plain and simple dr dre beat from 2004
no love -  lil wayne ruins it from jump
wont back down -  pink on the hook is a bad look . too cheesy
your never over -  eminem singing toooo much
spacebound -  beat is ok , but the hook is garbage


best songs
Talking 2 myself
cold wind blow
seduction
not afraid
Going through changes

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