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EMINEM - RECOVERY (Official Discussion)
bez:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 24, 2010, 10:54:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Action! on June 24, 2010, 09:15:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 24, 2010, 08:44:33 PM ---Lyrically, he was weaker on Relapse & he had weaker songs throughout. Recovery he only had 2-3.
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Cham, I know we've been bickering about Recovery and a bunch of bullshit but why do you think this? I've heard people say his punchlines on Recovery are dope. I wasn't sure what they were talking about. Could you cite examples?
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Some of his punchlines are relatively weak; like "Put down the scissors and cut the crap". :-X
He has some corny sounding punchlines, like "You can get the dick, just call me the ballsack, I'm nuts" & "Listen garden tool, don't make me introduce you to my power tools, you know the fucking drill" & "Stick my dick in a circle, but I'm not fucking around" that's weak.
But...
"When I'm not even in my harshest
You can still get roasted because Marsh is not mellow" - "No Love"
"Sayin you sick quit playin you prick dont nobody care
Then why the fuck am I yellin at air
I aint even talkin to noone cause aint nobody there
Nobody will fuckin test me cause these hos wont even dare" - "On Fire"; I dig that.
There might be a few more, I don't remember off the top of my head.
Anyway, punchlines & metaphors aren't what I consider lyrical; to me, it's more about the topic & it's message or not.
Space Bound is lyrical for the content he spits, not his little creative way of spitting it.
& Relapse had flat out weak songs like, "Hello" & "Medicine Ball" those songs get love for what Dre did, but Em didn't really do it for me there.
But as I look back, I liked almost everything else, so maybe I just haven't done a fair look back at Relapse; but overall the better songs on this album are better than the better songs on that album.
I think I gave Relapse a 7/10, so basically they're tied lol; but if asked me which i prefered, I'd say Recovery.
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Quite crazy the way you have listed the dope punches and labeled them as weak, then the weak one you have said was good.
Chamillitary Click:
^lol, which one?
Action!:
I actually think most of Eminem's punchlines are corny, especially because I'm supposed to take them seriously. Cham, is more on point on what's corny because those lines suck and the ones he listed, the phrase, is enjoyable.
There were glimpses of material I enjoyed liked.
Example: Cold Wind Blows
Probably my favorite bars from the album,
--- Quote ---dance while I diss you to the beat, fuck the words
you don't listen to 'em anyway, yeah struck a nerve sucker
Motherfucker, might as well let my lips pucker
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But then he follows it up with a bar I don't care for,
--- Quote --- Like Elton John, cause I'm just a mean cock sucker
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Yet, he comes back strong with,
--- Quote --- This shit is on, cause you went and pissed me off
Now I'm sitting and pissing on everybody
Give a fuck if it's right or wrong
So buck the buddah, light a bong
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I guess I'm not into Eminem's punchlines as I am into him speaking on real shit.
I like how he says he'll diss someone but then apologizes for almost dissing Ye and Weezy in the next track. Who the hell is he talking about? He should've just named names.
Chamillitary Click:
^He probably isn't talking about anybody.
Besides diss songs that we were told who they were directed at, he's got lines on songs on every album like, "I'll stab you, you motherfucker"; yet, the "you" isn't aimed at anybody in particular; he's just using what works for his rhyme pattern.
BiggBoogaBiff:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 25, 2010, 04:16:06 PM ---^He probably isn't talking about anybody.
Besides diss songs that we were told who they were directed at, he's got lines on songs on every album like, "I'll stab you, you motherfucker"; yet, the "you" isn't aimed at anybody in particular; he's just using what works for his rhyme pattern.
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you're so glad a white rapper is this big huh? now u finally feel like u got somethin 2 talk about lol. go fuck ur ear witchur finger.
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