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Should Tom izzo accept the Cavs job without a guarantee from Lebron?
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2010, 07:06:55 PM ---i agree, dope ass squad, west > kobe, at least delonte wont give you 3-15 in a game 7 of the finals
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Yeah but he might fuck your mother...kind of a catch 22
Halu Sination:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 12, 2010, 01:08:01 AM ---Even with a guarantee from LeBron....fuck that. I would want a guarantee from the front office that they will go after some good players to help LeBron. At least if you dont have LeBron, the expectation will be low. Just making the playoffs would be a huge accomplishment for Izzo. WITH LeBron...anything short of a championship is seen as a failure.
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The front office already did go after good players to help LeBron. Hell, as far as actively seeking help and attempting to rebuild goes, they actually did a damn good job.
The only problem is the team had no general direction as to HOW they could improve, because the team was already doing good to begin with. So they just went out and got random big-named all-stars and hope they can do well instead of stopping to consider whether or not the player actually fits with the team's curent style... pretty much what the Mavs' management has been doing these past couple years (although Mavs have been even more ridiculous). The final two additions that they added to the team, Shaq and Jamison, are both good players who were mis-used horribly. They're both players who are better at getting their own shots off, and that becomes a problem when LeBron has the ball every single possession. That's why the Cavs did better years ago when they were just a bunch of no-namers who knew how to play sick defense and knew how to follow LeBron's lead. Add to the fact that neither Jamison or Shaq are great defenders, and you see why the Cavs' plan failed miserably.
If this team actually had a real coach or game plan, they would have found more success. No disrespect to Mike Brown, his defensive philosophies did wonders for Cavs, but he once they finally started getting other offensive players to work with, it seemed like he had no idea what to do with them.
I definitely agree with the context of your message though as to why Izzo should stay away from Cleveland. What you said is pretty much what the problem is with the Cavs whole situation. And that's the reason Danny Ferry simply resigned as GM. Anybody with any shred of dignity is not going to want to stay with a franchise where the franchise itself will villainize every single person who is not named LeBron for any of the team's shortcomings.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 17, 2010, 02:11:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 17, 2010, 11:38:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 12, 2010, 02:50:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lunatic on June 12, 2010, 02:32:06 PM ---Either way, no
but what's this "players to help LBJ" shit ppl can saying? That was a problem years ago but is no longer an excuse. Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, Varejao, Zy, tried Shaq, etc.
This team has a good enough supporting cast. No excuses.
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Are they as good as Kobe's? You cant really compare it to Bostons situation because they dont have ONE dominate player.
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they can easily be as good as Kobe's cast. LOL. and you know that.
Like i said in the past, looking good comes with winning. Kobe's cast was trashed like never before after Game 5.
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Youre right...Jamison > Gasol.
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If Cavs woulda won it this year, there's no doubt in my mind that woulda been argued.
teecee:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 18, 2010, 08:33:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 17, 2010, 02:11:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 17, 2010, 11:38:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 12, 2010, 02:50:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lunatic on June 12, 2010, 02:32:06 PM ---Either way, no
but what's this "players to help LBJ" shit ppl can saying? That was a problem years ago but is no longer an excuse. Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, Varejao, Zy, tried Shaq, etc.
This team has a good enough supporting cast. No excuses.
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Are they as good as Kobe's? You cant really compare it to Bostons situation because they dont have ONE dominate player.
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they can easily be as good as Kobe's cast. LOL. and you know that.
Like i said in the past, looking good comes with winning. Kobe's cast was trashed like never before after Game 5.
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Youre right...Jamison > Gasol.
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If Cavs woulda won it this year, there's no doubt in my mind that woulda been argued.
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All us bball fans are fickle...ALL of us
you gon always be my latin queen bitch:
They will go one way and then the next...anyway james goes...but hes a overrated player that cant win a ring...hasnt yet
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