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Quarterfinals Bracket 2: Argentina - Germany & Paraguay - Spain
7even:
So you're saying the coach wanted Germany to win because his grandparents are from Europe? Nigga you on crack?
Maradona is a worse coach, hands down. Nigga gon fail under pressure. It's just that Argentina hasn't had a tough game yet. Their group was easy as shit and against Mexico they have been bailed out by Rosetti, this fucking bastard.
Javier:
--- Quote from: 7even on July 01, 2010, 11:12:11 AM ---So you're saying the coach wanted Germany to win because his grandparents are from Europe? Nigga you on crack?
Maradona is a worse coach, hands down. Nigga gon fail under pressure. It's just that Argentina hasn't had a tough game yet. Their group was easy as shit and against Mexico they have been bailed out by Rosetti, this fucking bastard.
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The thing that I'm realizing though is that Maradona doesn't even run the team, he's just there for the players.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Javier on July 01, 2010, 10:54:34 AM ---Argentina doesn't really have native people, it's the least indigenous of the Americas.
Having two holding midfielders is better than having one holding midfielder and a tired Riquelme.
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It's one thing to not think it was fixed. But to think it was a good coaching decision is absurd. The best bet strategically for that match was to take off the old and tired Crespo and replace him with Messi. The coach changed the hole line up for the game against Germany and brought on guys as subs that hadn't played at all prior to that game. It'll take a lot for me to convince anyone that soccer is fixed, but it shouldn't take much to show you terrible coaching cost them the game against Germany.
It's very simple; you keep Riquelme on and you bring on Cambiassio for Gonzalez, then you take of Crespo and bring on Messi. Losing their goalie to injury, and what should have been a red card on Klose I think it was, probably hurt strategy a bit, but bringing in Julio Cruz and keeping Gonzalez on is just plain stupid. You need some sort of offensive playmaking ability if you give up a goal in the last 15 minutes. Tevez hadn't played many full games at that point and would have been tired, and with out Messi or Riquelme to be creative he wasn't much of a threat. And since I was saying this at the very moment Camciasso was brought on for Riquelme and and was screaming when I saw Cruz come in, this isn't a case of hindsight being 20/20. It was bad movie when it happened.
Makaveli's Food & Liquor:
Argentina simply because they're gonna score goals regardless, their defense doesn't have to be amazing just solid for them to win and obviously Spain are going to destroy Paraguay unless they do their usual and bottle it, which i highly doubt
Javier:
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 01, 2010, 04:10:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on July 01, 2010, 10:54:34 AM ---Argentina doesn't really have native people, it's the least indigenous of the Americas.
Having two holding midfielders is better than having one holding midfielder and a tired Riquelme.
--- End quote ---
It's one thing to not think it was fixed. But to think it was a good coaching decision is absurd. The best bet strategically for that match was to take off the old and tired Crespo and replace him with Messi. The coach changed the hole line up for the game against Germany and brought on guys as subs that hadn't played at all prior to that game. It'll take a lot for me to convince anyone that soccer is fixed, but it shouldn't take much to show you terrible coaching cost them the game against Germany.
It's very simple; you keep Riquelme on and you bring on Cambiassio for Gonzalez, then you take of Crespo and bring on Messi. Losing their goalie to injury, and what should have been a red card on Klose I think it was, probably hurt strategy a bit, but bringing in Julio Cruz and keeping Gonzalez on is just plain stupid. You need some sort of offensive playmaking ability if you give up a goal in the last 15 minutes. Tevez hadn't played many full games at that point and would have been tired, and with out Messi or Riquelme to be creative he wasn't much of a threat. And since I was saying this at the very moment Camciasso was brought on for Riquelme and and was screaming when I saw Cruz come in, this isn't a case of hindsight being 20/20. It was bad movie when it happened.
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Cambiasso for Riquelme was good at the moment, and plenty of managers would do that move again. Riquelme wouldn't have been a useful player in the ET, might as well try to protect the lead. But that's just me...and I doubt the "fix was in" if me and other managers would have done the same thing.
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