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Official NBA Free Agent Frenzy Thread
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--- Quote from: LooN3y on July 07, 2010, 03:58:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 07, 2010, 03:56:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on July 07, 2010, 03:15:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 07, 2010, 03:10:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on July 07, 2010, 01:23:48 AM ---shaq with the mavs would be the best choice in terms of advancing in the playoffs,
i really wonder where AI is goin this free agency. willing to play for any team and any amount, but he needs to go to a contender i know hes not gonna take the backseat on a shitty team and he doesnt deserve to. although i didnt like his attutide last year because he was told there was a chance he might play off the bench and he left, but if it were a contender especially with somebody with a big ego (ie kobe, wade, etc etc) than i know itll be kool.
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Id be all for a Parker/McDyess for Josh Smith/ Bibby trade. ATL is looking for an All Star calliber PG and this rumor has been out there. The salaries matchup. Make the trade, resign Jefferson...and sign AI in a backup role.
That would give us...
PG Hill / Bibby / Temple
SG Manu / AI / Hairston
SF Jefferson / Anderson
PF Smith / Blair
C Duncan / Splitter
I know typically AI has been at the point...but for the sake of ball movement I would rather him be at the 2. The rookie Anderson is really a SG, but we can use him at the 3 and play small ball with the second unit. Bibby, AI, Anderson, Blair, and Splitter will bring a ton of energy and our starting 5 would definitely be solid.
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thats a pretty balanced line up, young guys with a good amount of vets on the team, well i only put AI as point for def purposes, you know on the offensive end hes a 2 guard, he CAN play the point but thats not his game and itll make his game suffer.
and im sure pop would keep iverson in check, and iverson would be alright with it given that hes on a contender with that line up, but i dont see that trade happening. mcdyess for josh smith? cmon now.
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the two main players in that trade are Parker and Smith....with Parkers salary being the highest. He is around 12 mil and Dyess over 4. Smith is around 10, and Bibby around 6. So the salaries fit. ATL is looking to upgrade at the PG position, and Parker would be the best player in that trade. So it helps both teams.
My only concern with that trade, is it doesnt address our outside shooting. We need more shooters. Anderson is gonna be solid of course. But we wouldnt have a real deadly 3 point guy in the starting lineup.
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anderson = ryan anderson?
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Naw, James Anderson. The Spurs 1st rd draft pick outta Oklahoma St. Regarded by many to be the best shooter in the draft, and the steal of the draft. He should be solid.
7even:
--- Quote from: Hans Moleman on July 06, 2010, 05:00:30 PM ---yes english is my mother's language and it's also my langauge
and the article even indicates that the celtics would have been bound to the 21 million on their cap REGARDLESS of if Pierce stayed or not - meaning THERE WAS NO PLAN B
stupid people like you give Europe a bad reputation on this forum.
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Ok I will break this down for you very very slowly, because obviously you are just too stupid to understand it... :-\
1.) This article is very-pro Celtics, probably from a fan-site. Which means they are trying their best to make this contract extension look great.
Now let's do this slowly, cause apparently you are just dumb as hell and won't get it otherwise.
--- Quote ---Instead, Pierce's deal averages out at less money than what Gay is making. Regardless of how it escalates, Pierce's salary in 2010-11 will undoubtedly be lower -- much lower -- than the $21.5 million he was set to earn, and will save Boston's ownership twice the difference in luxury tax dollars, a potential huge savings for the team.
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This means the 2010-11 salary will be lower than it would have been if he had not opt out. Okay? But his salary now continues throughout 2014-15. Get the twist?
--- Quote ---And while we all expected Pierce back, the Celtics can breathe a sigh of relief because there was no quality Plan B.
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Key word: Quality. Get the twist? It's also subjective. It's Celtics-fan-site-bias.
--- Quote ---If Pierce had walked away, the team would have been bound by the salary cap and it was unlikely they could have secured a player of his talent -- at least without cutting ties with Allen as well -- particularly in this deep-pocketed market where free agents are receiving head-shaking amounts of money early in the process. It might only get worse as the pickings get slimmer for cash-gushing teams that spent much of the past season clearing space to lure a superstar, but could get left scraping for whatever is leftover.
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Do you understand that this implies that they would HAVE HAD CAP SPACE?? Do you understand it? Or does it fly over your head like usual? They would have had cap space, it is just that the author of this CELTICS FAN SITE article claims that it would have been hard to get a good free agent or something because so many teams have cap space due to the free agent frenzy.
But since Boston ain't winning shit regardless, you don't have to sign LeBron just cause you don't sign Pierce.
Now let's do a little bird rule 101, cause you seem to don't get what this rule means, even though your stupid ass keeps telling me I should look it up. LOL
All the Bird Rule basically stands for is the mechanism that teams can sign their own players who they have bird rights on, even though signing them brings them over the cap (even if they already are over the cap prior to signing them). This is it.
However, if players are waived, they still don't count against the luxery tax. Meaning, a player who is not actually playing for the team, but is waived and still collects pay-checks from the team, doesn't even count against luxery tax.
Your dumb ass could have read this in the link I posted:
--- Quote ---In the summer of 2005, the new CBA provided an amnesty clause: a one-time opportunity for each team to waive one, and only one, player and avoid having him count against the team's luxury tax calculation.
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So in the summer of 2005 you could even waive a nigga and not pay luxery tax. How much sense does it make that now you pay luxery tax for a player who opted out on his own terms and signed a NEW contract with a DIFFERENT TEAM?
So you still think Pierce's 21 mil would have counted against the Celtic's luxery tax, even if he had opted out, not been re-signed and started to play for another team? DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT? ARE YOU REALLY THAT DUMB?
You know, what's even crazier is that you have the nerve to call me stupid, while all I am saying in this argument is 100% right and backed up by facts while you are misunderstanding things left and right even though English is your motherlanguage and I have never been to a country in which people speak it, not even on vacation.
Do you realize how sad this looks for you?
Edit:
Here I've got it pointed out more easily for your dumb ass:
--- Quote ---32. When do free agents stop counting against the team's cap?
When any one of the following three things happen:
* The player signs a new contract with the same team. When this happens, the player's effect on his team's team salary is based on his new salary.
* The player signs with a different team. As soon as this happens, the player becomes the new team's problem, and his salary no longer counts against his old team.
* The team renounces the player. (See question number 33)
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Mo Z. Dizzle:
Source: Bulls to sign Boozer
The Chicago Bulls have reached agreement with Carlos Boozer(notes) on a five-year contract worth $80 million, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Bulls moved quickly to secure a commitment from Boozer after Dwyane Wade(notes) decided to re-sign with the Miami Heat and bring Chris Bosh(notes) with him.
LooN3y:
if lebron doesnt head to miami, hes gonna ask himself "what if" his whole life.
7even:
--- Quote from: LooN3y on July 07, 2010, 04:47:49 PM ---if lebron doesnt head to miami, hes gonna ask himself "what if" his whole life.
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I honestly don't know what to think of LeBron at this point.
On the one hand, it's cool for some player to stick to his team even though it will never ever win a ring, ala Nowitzki. On the other hand, it's just dumb to pass on 4-5 rings and at least 3 finals MVPs just because you want more attention... whatever. I'd be very sad if Lebron stays in Ohio.
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