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Looks like LeBron is staying in Cleveland (gonna announce his decision Thursday)
LooN3y:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 08, 2010, 03:24:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on July 08, 2010, 03:09:11 PM ---wait hold up chal, you discredit kobe for having shaq, but u dont discredit lebron for having bosh and wade?
sounds pretty hypocritical. and dont tell me shaq could of done it without kobe.
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If Lebron wins a title with Miami (if he goes there), alongside Wade and Bosh....its on par with Kobe's titles with Shaq. IMO, they mean less. The only advantage I would give LeBron in that situation, is that he would still be considered the best player on the team...whereas Kobe was number 2 on the three peat Lakers. Now Lebron would have TWO bonified superstars to Kobe's ONE with Shaq. It still means a LITTLE that LeBron would be the guy on this Heat team. Either way, its bullshit. If he goes to the Heat, he is gonna have a good part of the country routing for them to fail. He wont cement a legacy for himself by winning titles with one of the other top players of his generation, and one of the best bigmen in the league. He should go to NY IMO, team up with soft ass Amare....and create a feud with the Heat. Lebron/Amare vs Wade/Bosh.
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yea it would be better for their legacies, and would create a mad rivalry, but i still think the nets is a much better option, the talent is spread out more and i know the owner is down to go way over the cap limit and pay luxury tax is lebron goes there.
the knicks got amare, while nets got harris and lopez, if harris goes back to what he did when carter was on the team, he'll be fine.
but if lebron leaves the cavs hes done being in the same convo as kobe and MJ, and none of that HOFer nonsense if lebron were to win the last 3 years wouldnt his teammates be considered hofers? lol seriously man.
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.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: LooN3y on July 08, 2010, 03:32:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 08, 2010, 03:24:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on July 08, 2010, 03:09:11 PM ---wait hold up chal, you discredit kobe for having shaq, but u dont discredit lebron for having bosh and wade?
sounds pretty hypocritical. and dont tell me shaq could of done it without kobe.
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If Lebron wins a title with Miami (if he goes there), alongside Wade and Bosh....its on par with Kobe's titles with Shaq. IMO, they mean less. The only advantage I would give LeBron in that situation, is that he would still be considered the best player on the team...whereas Kobe was number 2 on the three peat Lakers. Now Lebron would have TWO bonified superstars to Kobe's ONE with Shaq. It still means a LITTLE that LeBron would be the guy on this Heat team. Either way, its bullshit. If he goes to the Heat, he is gonna have a good part of the country routing for them to fail. He wont cement a legacy for himself by winning titles with one of the other top players of his generation, and one of the best bigmen in the league. He should go to NY IMO, team up with soft ass Amare....and create a feud with the Heat. Lebron/Amare vs Wade/Bosh.
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yea it would be better for their legacies, and would create a mad rivalry, but i still think the nets is a much better option, the talent is spread out more and i know the owner is down to go way over the cap limit and pay luxury tax is lebron goes there.
the knicks got amare, while nets got harris and lopez, if harris goes back to what he did when carter was on the team, he'll be fine.
but if lebron leaves the cavs hes done being in the same convo as kobe and MJ, and none of that HOFer nonsense if lebron were to win the last 3 years wouldnt his teammates be considered hofers? lol seriously man.
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I dunno. I think they are seperate conversations. You can be in the same conversation with Kobe, without being in the same conversation with Jordan.
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Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: LooN3y on July 08, 2010, 03:09:11 PM ---wait hold up chal, you discredit kobe for having shaq, but u dont discredit lebron for having bosh and wade?
sounds pretty hypocritical. and dont tell me shaq could of done it without kobe.
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I'm not giving LeBron "all" the credit like you moronic Laker fans give Kobe for what Shaq did.
Daygo got it though, it's no different than Kobe winning with Shaq; so Laker fans should be the last ones to talk when they say "He needed Wade" lol.
I know the comeback..."But Kobe did it without Shaq"; yeah, but Gasol + Artest + Odom + Bynum = Shaq lol; if not better.
Anyway, Looney, you can be quoted saying this team "cannot win" because of the lack of support off the bench. So if they do win that would be pretty impressive, no? Talk about contradictions.
LooN3y:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 08, 2010, 03:55:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on July 08, 2010, 03:09:11 PM ---wait hold up chal, you discredit kobe for having shaq, but u dont discredit lebron for having bosh and wade?
sounds pretty hypocritical. and dont tell me shaq could of done it without kobe.
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I'm not giving LeBron "all" the credit like you moronic Laker fans give Kobe for what Shaq did.
Daygo got it though, it's no different than Kobe winning with Shaq; so Laker fans should be the last ones to talk when they say "He needed Wade" lol.
I know the comeback..."But Kobe did it without Shaq"; yeah, but Gasol + Artest + Odom + Bynum = Shaq lol; if not better.
Anyway, Looney, you can be quoted saying this team "cannot win" because of the lack of support off the bench. So if they do win that would be pretty impressive, no? Talk about contradictions.
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no they can win, just not if the lakers have kobe, ron ron, odom, bynum, and gasol. if they do beat the lakers itll be impressive or the nuggets, but anything besides that no. their not gonna win next year they need to make adjustments. see what next years off season or season gives them, trades , draft, signings etc etc.
kobe did it wit one super star, lebron needs 3 when everybody claims hes the better player than kobe. now hes done it twice without a 2nd legit superstar.
magic had one superstar which was kareem, do you discredit him? james worthy was not a superstar.
and your comparing 4 players to one? lol man u say im in denial.
Chamillitary Click:
^Oh, you're talking about Hall of Famer James Worthy? Oh, okay; yeah, he was wack.
I'm not discrediting anybody, I don't even discredit Kobe; I just pull him down from the moon you guys put him on & make you understand that Odom is coming off the bench for the Lakers, where he would be the 2nd best player on nearly half the teams in the NBA lol.
Kobe is a factor, just like every other player on every other championship team; just like LeBron would be if he plays & wins with the Heat.
You guys are stacked with great talent & you act like Kobe carried them on his back; why do you think his PPG were down? Because it was the EXACT opposite of him carrying them on his back, they took the weight off & helped him win the ring.
I'll say it forever, .500 record the years he was alone & got his ass bounced out; you mean to tell him Kobe magically got better or his talent got much better? I usually bring up the fact LeBron was alone in '06 (unless you're saying Big Z is a future HOFer lol) & made it to the Finals, but I don't even need too because that's not the point. I can't think of the last team to win a ring where the Superstar leading the way was all alone.
Spurs - Duncan & Robinson, then Duncan, Parker, Manu
Lakers - Kobe & Shaq, then Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Odom, Bynum
Pistons - All members of the starting five made the All-Star team lol.
Heat - Wade & Shaq
People get help, it's just fans of other teams hate LeBron & since Wade is the 3rd best player in the league some of you are catching feelings because you know it could potentially be over before it even begins.
LeBron would be taking a 30 million dollar pay-cut of what he could be getting elsewhere, going into Miami knowing that his numbers will be down in every category, which has some effect on his personal legacy & is doing all of this to win? Why is that a bitch move? You know you would turn around & say "Oh he's only going 'here' for the money, he doesn't care". But he clearly wants to win & is making personal sacrificies to do so. So people who hate on him for being a selfish, ego-manic; how do you say that if he goes to Miami, takes paycuts & loses PPG, assists & rebounds, for the soul purpose of winning?
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