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Jordan had Pippen, Rodman and Phil Jackson in Chicago.Magic had Kareem, Worthy and Pat Riley in LA.LeBron had Mo Williams, Varejao and Mike Brown in Cleveland.How the blatant difference eludes everybody is beyond me.
Quote from: 7even on July 23, 2010, 11:59:31 AMJordan had Pippen, Rodman and Phil Jackson in Chicago.Magic had Kareem, Worthy and Pat Riley in LA.LeBron had Mo Williams, Varejao and Mike Brown in Cleveland.How the blatant difference eludes everybody is beyond me.why do you conveniently forget to add Antawn Jamison, who was a 1st option all-star on his team before he got traded? LeBron coulda won with Cleveland (if he had it in him)...don't give me that bullshit, cuz it's getting really old.
Quote from: Shallow on July 23, 2010, 12:03:20 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 21, 2010, 03:35:15 PMQuote from: 7even on July 21, 2010, 02:02:00 PMso if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable? No...but his legacy wouldn't be as celebrated as if he woulda brought titles to Cleveland with a team built around HIM. The Bulls of the 80s woulda never made the playoffs without Jordan...Jordan didn't run away from the pressure and he didn't choose to leave Chicago after his constant struggles in the first half of his career.He also never had a team mate fuck his mother. lmao its fun to imagine that one of the old bulls players would be slingin dick to jordans mom...
Quote from: NIKCC on July 21, 2010, 03:35:15 PMQuote from: 7even on July 21, 2010, 02:02:00 PMso if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable? No...but his legacy wouldn't be as celebrated as if he woulda brought titles to Cleveland with a team built around HIM. The Bulls of the 80s woulda never made the playoffs without Jordan...Jordan didn't run away from the pressure and he didn't choose to leave Chicago after his constant struggles in the first half of his career.He also never had a team mate fuck his mother.
Quote from: 7even on July 21, 2010, 02:02:00 PMso if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable? No...but his legacy wouldn't be as celebrated as if he woulda brought titles to Cleveland with a team built around HIM. The Bulls of the 80s woulda never made the playoffs without Jordan...Jordan didn't run away from the pressure and he didn't choose to leave Chicago after his constant struggles in the first half of his career.
so if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable?
Quote from: K1NG PETEY on July 23, 2010, 12:41:50 PMQuote from: Shallow on July 23, 2010, 12:03:20 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 21, 2010, 03:35:15 PMQuote from: 7even on July 21, 2010, 02:02:00 PMso if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable? No...but his legacy wouldn't be as celebrated as if he woulda brought titles to Cleveland with a team built around HIM. The Bulls of the 80s woulda never made the playoffs without Jordan...Jordan didn't run away from the pressure and he didn't choose to leave Chicago after his constant struggles in the first half of his career.He also never had a team mate fuck his mother. lmao its fun to imagine that one of the old bulls players would be slingin dick to jordans mom...Im sure this is the real reason Oakley was traded to the Knicks and Jordan beat up on them every year. "You fucked my mama...now Im gonna fuck you!"
Look, everyone should know the real reason I'm defending Lebron; I want Peyton Manning to do the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Shame that asshole has too much class. I'm still hoping Jim Irsay or Bill Polian have sex with Olivia Manning (or at least try too). The Peyton can do it and be the good guy. Maybe he can come to Miami too.
Quote from: Shallow on July 23, 2010, 04:12:39 PMLook, everyone should know the real reason I'm defending Lebron; I want Peyton Manning to do the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Shame that asshole has too much class. I'm still hoping Jim Irsay or Bill Polian have sex with Olivia Manning (or at least try too). The Peyton can do it and be the good guy. Maybe he can come to Miami too.Arent you a Bills fan?
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 23, 2010, 04:45:22 PMQuote from: Shallow on July 23, 2010, 04:12:39 PMLook, everyone should know the real reason I'm defending Lebron; I want Peyton Manning to do the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Shame that asshole has too much class. I'm still hoping Jim Irsay or Bill Polian have sex with Olivia Manning (or at least try too). The Peyton can do it and be the good guy. Maybe he can come to Miami too.Arent you a Bills fan?sarcasm. not sure. We're Raider fans, if there is ever a suffering fan it's Raider fans so I'm not seeing his point.
Quote from: M Dogg on July 23, 2010, 05:40:26 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 23, 2010, 04:45:22 PMQuote from: Shallow on July 23, 2010, 04:12:39 PMLook, everyone should know the real reason I'm defending Lebron; I want Peyton Manning to do the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Shame that asshole has too much class. I'm still hoping Jim Irsay or Bill Polian have sex with Olivia Manning (or at least try too). The Peyton can do it and be the good guy. Maybe he can come to Miami too.Arent you a Bills fan?sarcasm. not sure. We're Raider fans, if there is ever a suffering fan it's Raider fans so I'm not seeing his point.Well Im just talkin about him sayin that Payton could come to Miami. I figured he'd want him on the Bills. And there are fans suffering far worse than Raider fans. These recent years have sucked...but at least we have some glory years to look back on lol
Quote from: 7even on July 23, 2010, 11:59:31 AMJordan had Pippen, Rodman and Phil Jackson in Chicago.Magic had Kareem, Worthy and Pat Riley in LA.LeBron had Mo Williams, Varejao and Mike Brown in Cleveland.How the blatant difference eludes everybody is beyond me.You forgot about Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Delonte West, you can't forget about West... lolAnd Kobe has Gasol, Artest, Bynum and Phil Jackson
Quote from: M Dogg on July 23, 2010, 12:08:43 PMQuote from: 7even on July 23, 2010, 11:59:31 AMJordan had Pippen, Rodman and Phil Jackson in Chicago.Magic had Kareem, Worthy and Pat Riley in LA.LeBron had Mo Williams, Varejao and Mike Brown in Cleveland.How the blatant difference eludes everybody is beyond me.You forgot about Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Delonte West, you can't forget about West... lolAnd Kobe has Gasol, Artest, Bynum and Phil Jackson You are probably joking, but I only named the 2 top players. There were also better role players on those teams than Z and West. The Cavs completely sucked, only things good about them were LeBron and team defense. And their team defense went south when Shaq and Jamison came, two horrible fits for the Cavs.Quote from: NIKCC on July 23, 2010, 01:14:32 PMQuote from: 7even on July 23, 2010, 11:59:31 AMJordan had Pippen, Rodman and Phil Jackson in Chicago.Magic had Kareem, Worthy and Pat Riley in LA.LeBron had Mo Williams, Varejao and Mike Brown in Cleveland.How the blatant difference eludes everybody is beyond me.why do you conveniently forget to add Antawn Jamison, who was a 1st option all-star on his team before he got traded? LeBron coulda won with Cleveland (if he had it in him)...don't give me that bullshit, cuz it's getting really old.Jamison can be a good individual player on a team that fits him. He was horrible on the Cavs. The main thing he can do is scoring. He plays no defense. Just like Shaq, a good player on paper, just terrible for the Cavs because he is not really motivated to play smart or hustle defense, and he clogs the lane, which is terrible cause LeBron loves the lane.
^Oh, no, no. Peyton is a different story. He's just a choke artist.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 25, 2010, 09:18:54 AM^Oh, no, no. Peyton is a different story. He's just a choke artist. Youre thinking of Latrell Spreewell