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This a forum, it would be pointless that this forum exists if people only posted when they have something positive to say. The conflicting opinions is what makes it great.
the simple answer is because the only thing joe budden has going for him is his lyrics, his flow and voice are fucking terrible, as is his personality. gucci and ross have good flow, good beat choice (something old jo beezy has never had and never will) and are enjoyable to listen to. im not about to make this a war between the rappers, im just pointing out some very obvious and true points.
Quote from: 13th Duke on July 22, 2010, 08:19:52 AMThis a forum, it would be pointless that this forum exists if people only posted when they have something positive to say. The conflicting opinions is what makes it great.The opposing viewpoints are just fine, the problem is people often claim superiority through their negative viewpoint and say shit like youve just said "its garbage and always will be" i mean sure if you dont like it thats cool, and maybe youre just using a turn of phrase, but to say that does have connotations of superiority and gives the impression that you feel the music has no worth at all.
Gucci Mane sucks and Radiotube is a nigger.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 21, 2010, 09:57:18 PMLOL, that's hilarious...you're actually retarded.I thought it was just a little joke, like "ha, you say some stupid shit sometimes, you're retarded".But no, you're just dumb lol.hey cham, why do even bother replying to this fake ass white boy wigger, you know these white people will never learn.
LOL, that's hilarious...you're actually retarded.I thought it was just a little joke, like "ha, you say some stupid shit sometimes, you're retarded".But no, you're just dumb lol.
Too bad Pac KRS Ra big em snoop gucci and juicy j couldnt all get on all get on a panel and discuss this quote and tha topic. White folks are just getn upset that thay get calld out silently bcuz they feel entitled and want tha same rights we got n hiphop. i dnt care wat u say ANY white persons view abt hiphop will never b 100 legit bcuz this aint yall real life, we only help yall feel accepted bcuz of tha support, its just like bartenders and drunks baby. i mean cmon, besides a handful of white boys who probably dnt even rap yall aint really ``in`` like that, niggaz just be cool wit yall bcuz yall either got tha good weed, ur tha custi, or we fuck yall women and dnt b on no KKK shit. no disrespect to tha cool 1s cuz all yall aint fake but aint non of yall hiphop neither yall r just you.
& @ Based God, how about you learn what you're talking about before you make stupid ass assumptions.I'm a fan of Lil' Wayne's music, didn't cry when Kanye's 808's came out; felt Drake's first mixtape; fan of 50 Cent; big fan of Eminem & people say his lyrics aren't about shit. I EVEN LISTEN TO LADY GAGA lmfao.It's basically JUST Gucci Mane & Rick Ross who I don't like, along with a few no names; so don't be saying "I only listen to intelligent rappers"; which is ironic, for other reasons lol.& that's my POINT, how can you say "I don't like Joe Budden because his lyrics suck" (I know you didn't say his lyrics suck, but the other guy did) & then say "I support Gucci Mane" who has no lyrics? Just admit you're a hater of Joe Budden's music then & don't both posting your biased ass opinion lol.Honestly, not even that big of a fan or Talib or Mos Def. & it's not even I listen to "intelligent" rap, it's just I listen to underground music, with more substance than "ahhh, I fucked a goat, then took a bath with soap on a rope, GUCCI!"
Quote from: Infinite... Be and It Is on July 21, 2010, 08:14:52 PMQuote from: THE STOP BITCHING CAMPAIGN {est. 2010} on July 21, 2010, 06:04:00 PM"I say people like Mychal Smith are every bit as caught up in the flashing lights as the 'ignorant' masses they like to judge. Instead of celebrating it, they get joy from speaking against it. They truly believe not liking Gucci Mane makes them intellectually superior to say, some chic down south. They pay so much attention to what they perceive to be negative, based on a limited world view, that they miss the positive, even when it's right in their face" this is so true, i've been sayin' this 4 yearz. Talib was pretty much talkin about all of those fake ass white boys who be bloggin' all day tryna shit on niggaz and swear they got the upper hand on the knowledge bcuz they prefer Mos Def over Ice T. the full article can be found here: http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.11759/title.talib-kweli-responds-to-criticism-over-gucci-mane-collabNaw.. fuck that... I disagree, and call me one of "those" white boyz if you want to, I don't care...Talib Kweli doesn't want to be viewed as a fringe, conscious artist, and thinks he can expand his fan base by accepting some of the ignorance that's fucked up hip-hop. He also believes in embracing black people and black nationalism, and so he doesn't want to speak down on other black rappers. But regardless of what Talib Kweli says their music is garbage. And even Talib himself hasn't been that dope since Rawkus Records folded.lmao, you my friend have missed the whole fucking point. the point is people feeling intellectually superior when they decry music like gucci mane etc. so instead of being a decent guy and saying you dont like it, you have to call it "fucking garbage" and talk about ignorance, because you think you are INTELLECTUALY SUPERIOR to a gucci mane fan. . all youve done is prove his point by showing your own ignorance. look, youve even tried to claim he has an ulterior motive for saying what he said, simply because you can admit that YOU are the person he is talking about. dont worry about it though, there are so many people like you. all they fucking care about is perceived intelligence in their music and its complete and utter bullshit. but congratulations of proving talib right in just one post.
Quote from: THE STOP BITCHING CAMPAIGN {est. 2010} on July 21, 2010, 06:04:00 PM"I say people like Mychal Smith are every bit as caught up in the flashing lights as the 'ignorant' masses they like to judge. Instead of celebrating it, they get joy from speaking against it. They truly believe not liking Gucci Mane makes them intellectually superior to say, some chic down south. They pay so much attention to what they perceive to be negative, based on a limited world view, that they miss the positive, even when it's right in their face" this is so true, i've been sayin' this 4 yearz. Talib was pretty much talkin about all of those fake ass white boys who be bloggin' all day tryna shit on niggaz and swear they got the upper hand on the knowledge bcuz they prefer Mos Def over Ice T. the full article can be found here: http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.11759/title.talib-kweli-responds-to-criticism-over-gucci-mane-collabNaw.. fuck that... I disagree, and call me one of "those" white boyz if you want to, I don't care...Talib Kweli doesn't want to be viewed as a fringe, conscious artist, and thinks he can expand his fan base by accepting some of the ignorance that's fucked up hip-hop. He also believes in embracing black people and black nationalism, and so he doesn't want to speak down on other black rappers. But regardless of what Talib Kweli says their music is garbage. And even Talib himself hasn't been that dope since Rawkus Records folded.
"I say people like Mychal Smith are every bit as caught up in the flashing lights as the 'ignorant' masses they like to judge. Instead of celebrating it, they get joy from speaking against it. They truly believe not liking Gucci Mane makes them intellectually superior to say, some chic down south. They pay so much attention to what they perceive to be negative, based on a limited world view, that they miss the positive, even when it's right in their face" this is so true, i've been sayin' this 4 yearz. Talib was pretty much talkin about all of those fake ass white boys who be bloggin' all day tryna shit on niggaz and swear they got the upper hand on the knowledge bcuz they prefer Mos Def over Ice T. the full article can be found here: http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.11759/title.talib-kweli-responds-to-criticism-over-gucci-mane-collab
long time viewer, just registered to say thisITT: bitter black people, lol even my fellow whitefolk arguing like little girllls about the stupidest shit ive ever read
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 22, 2010, 10:26:22 AM& @ Based God, how about you learn what you're talking about before you make stupid ass assumptions.I'm a fan of Lil' Wayne's music, didn't cry when Kanye's 808's came out; felt Drake's first mixtape; fan of 50 Cent; big fan of Eminem & people say his lyrics aren't about shit. I EVEN LISTEN TO LADY GAGA lmfao.It's basically JUST Gucci Mane & Rick Ross who I don't like, along with a few no names; so don't be saying "I only listen to intelligent rappers"; which is ironic, for other reasons lol.& that's my POINT, how can you say "I don't like Joe Budden because his lyrics suck" (I know you didn't say his lyrics suck, but the other guy did) & then say "I support Gucci Mane" who has no lyrics? Just admit you're a hater of Joe Budden's music then & don't both posting your biased ass opinion lol.Honestly, not even that big of a fan or Talib or Mos Def. & it's not even I listen to "intelligent" rap, it's just I listen to underground music, with more substance than "ahhh, I fucked a goat, then took a bath with soap on a rope, GUCCI!"my opinion is not biased ive listened to 2 of his MM tapes and his 3 albums and like i said his voice sucks and thats why i dont like him. his lyrics are good but thats not enough for me. also i find his lyrics depressing. i tried really hard to like him and since i knew he had talent. i gave him a big chance but none of his music clicked with me for the reasons ive stated. so im NOT biased i dunno what the hell you are talking about. and that is a really dumb and childish attempt and making fun of gucci when hes actually been doing some of the more interesting rhyme schemes ive heard in years and his lyrics are nothing like that. I know what im talking about in regards to joe budden, you dont know what youre talking about in regards to gucci and it shows, really. and in regards to the whole 50/lil wayne/ etc. they are popular mainstream artists but people dont assume theyre lyrics are ignorant and basic, like they assume with gucci. i see the point you were trying to make there, it just makes no fucking sense