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I guess Magic Johnson is "jealous" of LeBron too...
Shallow:
I'm more interested in what the old guys that didn't win, and didn't win early would say to LeBron. If Larry or Magic had called Barkley, Stockton, Karl Malone, Ewing, etc over to their teams to play would they have said no? I want their answers.
And let's be real here, Lebron gong to Miami is not like Jordan going to Boston or LA in 88 or 89. It's like Jordan going to Detroit in 89 after the first win to play with Isiah. Now I guess it's different because they hate each other. But let's say Jordan and Thomas were buddies in the 88/89 season, Jordan finds out Horace Grant was sleeping with his mother, and after losing to the Pistons in the Eastern Final and frustrated with a young directionless coach in Doug Collins, Jordan gets a call from Karl Malone who wants out of Utah. And Isiah their buddy Isiah wants more than just one or two rings. He wants to build a decade long dynasty in Mo-Town. So Jordan and Malone join Isiah, Dumars, and Rodman and the Pistons win all ten championships of the 90s.
Now I'll admit, Jordan as a solo act may not have been as revered as he ended up. But those Pistons I think would have went down in history as the greatest team ever assembled. Isiah probably would have retired after 3 or 4 rings, and then it would have been Mike's team for the final 6.
This is what I feel the Heat want to become. Let's say the Heat win every ring between '11 and '20. It's a huge IF I know. I'm just saying, Lebron knows that that particular IF would erase all hatred for him. And I think that's what he's aiming for.
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--- Quote from: 7even on July 22, 2010, 10:24:06 AM ---Magic didn't win shit until Kareem came, the best center of the 80s. Go figure nigga.
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... you realize Kareem was on the team before Magic, right? And you realize Magic won the championship and the Finals MVP in his rookie season?
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Best Lakers of All Time
1. Magic
2. Kareem
3. Bryant (maybe)
4. Jerry West (maybe)
I think 3 and 4 could POSSIBLE be interchanged. But I think Magic and Kareem still have ahold of the top two spots.
On a side note, Id put Shaq up there probably at 3 behind Kareem if this was just as a player overall. But since its "Best Laker", I stuck with players who's names are synonymous with Lakers.
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you're way behind, fella...the Laker Nation has acknowledged Kobe as a greater Laker than Kareem a longggg long time ago. Kareem was already winding down his prime when he was traded to LA....then again, you'd say just about ANYTHING to discredit Kobe LOL.
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How does that discredit Kobe when most top 10 lists have Magic rated in the top 5 or 6 players all time? And obviously Kareem is a top 10 player all time. Typically West is even up there in the top 10. Him being behind any of those guys isnt exactly a bad thing. Its not like Im saying he's behind AC Green. lol. And you cant ask "Laker Nation" shit right after a title is won. Anyone with at least half a brain knows that people get hyped up over the present.
I told you that you were a bigger Kobe fan than Laker fan.
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WTF are you even saying man? Magic is in "most" top 5 or 6 players of all time? If Magic ISN'T on somebody's "top 6" list, that person lacks any fuckin credibility in the first place...and no shit Kareem is a top 10 player LOL.. He's the greatest center of all time. But he also won his first championship in Milwaukee and was the main face of the Bucks franchise, as opposed to being number 2 to Magic's number 1 when he was in LA...I have no problem with someone saying Magic is the greatest Laker of all time, but putting Kareem above Kobe on the all-time Laker list? just stop, man...you keep making yourself look more and more like a Laker hater over a Spurs fan...in fact, most (if not all) of your posts in this section are about the Lakers...at least when i post about the Lakers, I'm posting about MY team...you're pathetic LOL.
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The board is flooded with Laker and Lebron threads. So yeah, a lot of people are posting in those threads dummy. You dont seem to notice that you talk about Lebron more than anyone here? lol
And what are you talking about?! Most lists ive seen always have Kareem above Kobe lol Even the LA Times did. ESPN did. Etc. Im not saying Kobe wont ever pass those guys. But he is FIGHTING for the #2 spot in Laker history. And even fighting for # 3 depending on who you ask since Jerry West is so respected as an all time great. Let go of Kobe's nutsack for ONE second NIK. Realize that there IS a world outside of Kobe Bryant. Youve always been a real fag when it comes to the guy...but man...its pretty creepy. Not to mention this new obsession you have with Lebron. Its not healthy man.
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i talk about lebron no more than any other basketball fan in this section does...thats the biggest topic in the nba right now, surprise mufucka! so quit trying so hard to 1-up me LOL..makin you look childish as fuck, on top of ignorant. If you ask any sane person who doesn't hate Kobe more than he likes his own team (aka you LOL), they will tell you that Kobe is in the running for the number 1 spot in Laker history, not number 2...again, LOL@you. honestly, man, you're a fucking moron and your hate for Kobe surpasses any emotion I've felt towards sport teams/sport players...it's quite pathetic...make some posts about the Spurs (something you've never done), if you wanna SOMEWHAT redeem yourself :grumpy:
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Redeem myself for what? For pointing out the flaws in your arguments? Again, there are several Laker fans here so Lakers topics tend to have more responses. Youve dedicated your entire life to increasing your post count on this forum, I would have thought you noticed that by now. There arent enough Spurs fans here to really hold down conversations about them. And like I said, Kobe could very well end up the greatest Laker ever. I never said he couldnt. All I said is that on most lists he tends to still be rated behind Kareem. At the very best, tied with Kareem. A big part of that is due to Kareem being rated so high on the all time player scale.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 22, 2010, 08:52:25 PM ---I'm more interested in what the old guys that didn't win, and didn't win early would say to LeBron. If Larry or Magic had called Barkley, Stockton, Karl Malone, Ewing, etc over to their teams to play would they have said no? I want their answers.
And let's be real here, Lebron gong to Miami is not like Jordan going to Boston or LA in 88 or 89. It's like Jordan going to Detroit in 89 after the first win to play with Isiah. Now I guess it's different because they hate each other. But let's say Jordan and Thomas were buddies in the 88/89 season, Jordan finds out Horace Grant was sleeping with his mother, and after losing to the Pistons in the Eastern Final and frustrated with a young directionless coach in Doug Collins, Jordan gets a call from Karl Malone who wants out of Utah. And Isiah their buddy Isiah wants more than just one or two rings. He wants to build a decade long dynasty in Mo-Town. So Jordan and Malone join Isiah, Dumars, and Rodman and the Pistons win all ten championships of the 90s.
Now I'll admit, Jordan as a solo act may not have been as revered as he ended up. But those Pistons I think would have went down in history as the greatest team ever assembled. Isiah probably would have retired after 3 or 4 rings, and then it would have been Mike's team for the final 6.
This is what I feel the Heat want to become. Let's say the Heat win every ring between '11 and '20. It's a huge IF I know. I'm just saying, Lebron knows that that particular IF would erase all hatred for him. And I think that's what he's aiming for.
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Like i said, theres nothing wrong with what they are doing. They just raised the bar for themselves is all. They put themselves in a position where one ring wont be enough.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 22, 2010, 08:52:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on July 22, 2010, 08:33:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 22, 2010, 08:26:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on July 22, 2010, 08:05:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 22, 2010, 07:53:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on July 22, 2010, 07:36:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on July 22, 2010, 05:47:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Halu Sination on July 22, 2010, 05:27:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on July 22, 2010, 10:24:06 AM ---Magic didn't win shit until Kareem came, the best center of the 80s. Go figure nigga.
--- End quote ---
... you realize Kareem was on the team before Magic, right? And you realize Magic won the championship and the Finals MVP in his rookie season?
--- End quote ---
Best Lakers of All Time
1. Magic
2. Kareem
3. Bryant (maybe)
4. Jerry West (maybe)
I think 3 and 4 could POSSIBLE be interchanged. But I think Magic and Kareem still have ahold of the top two spots.
On a side note, Id put Shaq up there probably at 3 behind Kareem if this was just as a player overall. But since its "Best Laker", I stuck with players who's names are synonymous with Lakers.
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you're way behind, fella...the Laker Nation has acknowledged Kobe as a greater Laker than Kareem a longggg long time ago. Kareem was already winding down his prime when he was traded to LA....then again, you'd say just about ANYTHING to discredit Kobe LOL.
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How does that discredit Kobe when most top 10 lists have Magic rated in the top 5 or 6 players all time? And obviously Kareem is a top 10 player all time. Typically West is even up there in the top 10. Him being behind any of those guys isnt exactly a bad thing. Its not like Im saying he's behind AC Green. lol. And you cant ask "Laker Nation" shit right after a title is won. Anyone with at least half a brain knows that people get hyped up over the present.
I told you that you were a bigger Kobe fan than Laker fan.
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WTF are you even saying man? Magic is in "most" top 5 or 6 players of all time? If Magic ISN'T on somebody's "top 6" list, that person lacks any fuckin credibility in the first place...and no shit Kareem is a top 10 player LOL.. He's the greatest center of all time. But he also won his first championship in Milwaukee and was the main face of the Bucks franchise, as opposed to being number 2 to Magic's number 1 when he was in LA...I have no problem with someone saying Magic is the greatest Laker of all time, but putting Kareem above Kobe on the all-time Laker list? just stop, man...you keep making yourself look more and more like a Laker hater over a Spurs fan...in fact, most (if not all) of your posts in this section are about the Lakers...at least when i post about the Lakers, I'm posting about MY team...you're pathetic LOL.
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The board is flooded with Laker and Lebron threads. So yeah, a lot of people are posting in those threads dummy. You dont seem to notice that you talk about Lebron more than anyone here? lol
And what are you talking about?! Most lists ive seen always have Kareem above Kobe lol Even the LA Times did. ESPN did. Etc. Im not saying Kobe wont ever pass those guys. But he is FIGHTING for the #2 spot in Laker history. And even fighting for # 3 depending on who you ask since Jerry West is so respected as an all time great. Let go of Kobe's nutsack for ONE second NIK. Realize that there IS a world outside of Kobe Bryant. Youve always been a real fag when it comes to the guy...but man...its pretty creepy. Not to mention this new obsession you have with Lebron. Its not healthy man.
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i talk about lebron no more than any other basketball fan in this section does...thats the biggest topic in the nba right now, surprise mufucka! so quit trying so hard to 1-up me LOL..makin you look childish as fuck, on top of ignorant. If you ask any sane person who doesn't hate Kobe more than he likes his own team (aka you LOL), they will tell you that Kobe is in the running for the number 1 spot in Laker history, not number 2...again, LOL@you. honestly, man, you're a fucking moron and your hate for Kobe surpasses any emotion I've felt towards sport teams/sport players...it's quite pathetic...make some posts about the Spurs (something you've never done), if you wanna SOMEWHAT redeem yourself :grumpy:
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Redeem myself for what? For pointing out the flaws in your arguments? Again, there are several Laker fans here so Lakers topics tend to have more responses. Youve dedicated your entire life to increasing your post count on this forum, I would have thought you noticed that by now. There arent enough Spurs fans here to really hold down conversations about them. And like I said, Kobe could very well end up the greatest Laker ever. I never said he couldnt. All I said is that on most lists he tends to still be rated behind Kareem. At the very best, tied with Kareem. A big part of that is due to Kareem being rated so high on the all time player scale.
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you keep saying "several Laker fans"....who are these "Laker fans", besides Mdogg? seriously, douche LOL...as far as I know, there are Laker fans who have stopped posting here because of dipshits like you (Antonio, Juronimo, etc.), so stop bringing that same lame ass argument every time i make you look like a dumbass, because it doesn't even hold any weight. stick to the fucking topic...oh wait, you have nothing to say about the actual topic! you never did LOL...and you're still a fucking idiot to think that people still rate Kareem over Kobe as a Laker...LOL, again.
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Shallow is on point.
Not to mention, how can a Laker fan try to take away from this when the team that made the franchise as big as it is was three Hall of Famers winning rings?
Who cares how they come together? They played together.
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