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YEA..... Lebron Is Much Better
theremedy360:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 31, 2010, 10:53:19 AM ---Kobe has literally nothing on LeBron but a jumpshot & rings that were won for him by playing team basketball.
LeBron alone (or with Mo Williams) 60+ wins, Kobe alone; 40 wins.
People being blind to the facts, smh,
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Kobe obviously has the better supporting cast now, but LeBron played with two former all stars and a bunch of solid roll players while Kobe was stuck with a bunch of scrubs (aside from Lamar). The East is also an easier division to win games in. My only point was that LeBron is un-proven. Does that mean he'll never be an all time great? No. But at this point he hasn't shown me anything but freakish athleticism and the ability to pile together regular season wins.
Chamillitary Click:
^I mean, put steroids aside & Barry Bonds wasn't proven, but he was undoubtedly the greatest player of this generation; he just didn't have the team behind him to win & he even made it to the WS.
LeBron had a good squad, honestly, coulda/shoulda made it to the Finals, but he doesn't have no Kobe, LA squad.
Larry & Magic won throughout the 80's with STACKED ass teams; Jordan won throughout the 90's with a stacked ass team; & for this decade, the Lakers had an amazing team with Shaq & Kobe & now the super stacked team they currently have, the Spurs had an incredible team with Robinson, Duncan, Parker & Manu, & even the Pistons had a STACKED team when they won.
Take the best player off of all those teams I just named, off of all those NBA Champions over the years & ALL of those teams would still be playoff bound, 5, 6, 7 seeds; where the Cavs would honestly be LUCKY to win 30 games this season without LeBron.
Sure LeBron has to start winning titles, but look what the Laker stans run to; now if he wins, it's "not legit", give me break lol.
EDIT: Also, what you quoted of me, was speaking on terms of pure skills. LeBron is better than Kobe in every aspect except a jumpshot & this imaginary "clutch" factor & "heart" & whatever other unproveable thing ESPN makes up for him to make it seem like they are even.
theremedy360:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 31, 2010, 06:08:41 PM ---^I mean, put steroids aside & Barry Bonds wasn't proven, but he was undoubtedly the greatest player of this generation; he just didn't have the team behind him to win & he even made it to the WS.
LeBron had a good squad, honestly, coulda/shoulda made it to the Finals, but he doesn't have no Kobe, LA squad.
Larry & Magic won throughout the 80's with STACKED ass teams; Jordan won throughout the 90's with a stacked ass team; & for this decade, the Lakers had an amazing team with Shaq & Kobe & now the super stacked team they currently have, the Spurs had an incredible team with Robinson, Duncan, Parker & Manu, & even the Pistons had a STACKED team when they won.
Take the best player off of all those teams I just named, off of all those NBA Champions over the years & ALL of those teams would still be playoff bound, 5, 6, 7 seeds; where the Cavs would honestly be LUCKY to win 30 games this season without LeBron.
Sure LeBron has to start winning titles, but look what the Laker stans run to; now if he wins, it's "not legit", give me break lol.
EDIT: Also, what you quoted of me, was speaking on terms of pure skills. LeBron is better than Kobe in every aspect except a jumpshot & this imaginary "clutch" factor & "heart" & whatever other unproveable thing ESPN makes up for him to make it seem like they are even.
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Well I see there's no convincing you of a clutch factor, so I'm not even gonna try 8)
Sccit:
LOL@any idiot who truly believes LeBron can even be in the same sentence as Kobe when it comes to the clutch factor and using 82game stats as their basis...pathetic. and LMAO@"what does Kobe have on LeBron besides a jumpshot?"...would you say the same thing about Jordan? Because Kobe can do everything Jordan can do on a basketball court...so that's a pretty fucking moronic statement in it's own..The only thing LeBron has on Kobe is power/athleticism..if you think otherwise, you're not even worth discussing with.
Chamillitary Click:
^Whose better with the ball? LeBron.
Whose a better passer? LeBron.
Whose a better rebounder? LeBron.
Whose better at taking it to the hoop & more dominating & more unstoppable when driving? LeBron.
It's not me being moronic, it's you being in denial, which is perfectly okay & understandable.
Daygo already proved that Kobe isn't as clutch as Vince, Allan & LeBron. Isn't even as clutch as Pau Gasol. Kobe also takes the most clutch shots & has the most misses, so basically he isn't playing better in the clutch or worse, he's just playing how he does throughout the whole game & your biased force & delusional thinking that he is some second coming of Jesus makes you think he's "stepping up".
The only Kobe argument is "clutchness" & rings; one that doesn't exist & one that was won for him by the help of others. As a pure player, who is better all around, not looking at accolades, just what they can do on a court; LeBron is hands down better.
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