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Wyclef Running For Haiti's Presendency
M Dogg™:
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There are already groups against Wyclef in Haiti, because he hasn't lived in Haiti for 5 years, he has a US passport, though still technically a Haitian citizen, his getting killed for the passport. When these laws were put into place, it was out of fear that someday a Haitian from the US, would make money in the US, then come back to Haiti and try to run the country. This was a legit fear in 1987 when Haiti wrote up their constitution, and that is EXACTLY what is happening right now. Wyclef is lobbying right now for Haiti to change the constitution to run for president, how is that.
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He grew up in Haiti. He can run under the constitution.
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He hasn't lived in Haiti the last 30 years, he can't run under's Haiti's constitution. Look it up.
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And this is a requirement where?
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Haiti's constitution. It was designed to prevent Haitians from making money in the US, only to comeback to Haiti and then become president. Sound familiar. Here, Article 135 of the constitution
http://pdba.georgetown.edu/constitutions/haiti/haiti1987.html
--- Quote from: LONDON!! on August 09, 2010, 06:37:12 AM ---@m dogg
what do you think about michel martelly?
and clef has been going back and forth between haiti since he was born there before the earthquake, but yeah, constitutionaly he can't stand because of the rule that you have to have lived there five years consecutively if you want to run for the presidency, but clef was haiti's worldwide roving ambassador so i think he will still be able to run still you know
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He will be the Barack Obama of Haiti if elected. Loved on the streets, never makes that change he promises.
Triple OG Rapsodie:
There's nothing there about having to have lived in Haiti for the last 30 years
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: rap sez so on August 09, 2010, 12:00:53 PM ---There's nothing there about having to have lived in Haiti for the last 30 years
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let me spell this out for you.
In order to be president in Haiti, you have to have lived there at least 5 years before the election. That means from 2005-2010, Wyclef had to have lived as a full time resident in Haiti. For at least the last 30 years, meaning 1980-2010, Wyclef has lived in the United States, in New Jersey. Meaning he has not lived in Haiti for the last 5 years, 2005-2010. He visits Haiti, but never set up a permanent residency in Haiti, his full time home has been New Jersey. Meaning according to the constitution of Haiti, he is not eligible to be president of Haiti. He filed papers, but the representative branch of the government of Haiti is expected to block his candidacy because of this fact.
LONDON!!:
@m dogg
obama is a system controlled conman puppet, are you saying that western corporate interests control michel martelly?
because you seem to know a lot and seem to be up on haitian politics, because michel dosen't seem like a puppet to me
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: LONDON!! on August 09, 2010, 02:15:21 PM ---@m dogg
obama is a system controlled conman puppet, are you saying that western corporate interests control michel martelly?
because you seem to know a lot and seem to be up on haitian politics, because michel dosen't seem like a puppet to me
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He doesn't seem like a puppet, but as you know I was a strong supporter of Obama and so far I am seeing him trying to navigate the worlds of both the supporters he had and trying to not step on the establishment's toes, and I fear that might be Martelly's fate as well. I have no reason so far to believe though that Martelly is a puppet, so I will have to keep an eye on him.
I only got into Haitian politics 5 years ago, when I took a Latin American history class. We had a visiting professor who was genius, his name is Dennis Hildago, and he knew Latin American politics in and out. At the same time, people were protesting Aristide getting over thrown, and I decided to go see some film makers who were documenting the protest in Haiti. They had footage that was not seen in the US, or even actually released documentaries because no one wanted to touch it from a pro-Aristide point of view. When it came time for the final project in our Latin American history class, my group drew Haiti, so it gave me a chance to study Haiti's past, and instead of going into the depths of Haiti's past like my group wanted, I insisted we go into Haiti since Baby Doc got overthrown, and the struggle to keep Aristide and the democracy in power. I was truly into it, and I still follow Haitian politics to this day. We got an A in the class and the project, the professor was truly impressed and I learned so much about finding alternative news sources since the Times, Newsweek and all the other news sources in our library made Aristide to be a bad man. Looking at that footage though, talking to the people that were actually there, and finding actual Haitian news sources showed that Haiti had a strong distrust of the US, outsiders. Since the election of Obama though, Haiti has a positive attitude to the US, and since the earthquake, much has change, some even asking to be a US territory. It is this weakness in Haiti that I fear Haiti will lose it's independence and in turn it will lose it's financial independence, and maybe be like Costa Rica and forever be dependent on the US. Costa Rica once made it's own food, and then over time the US shipped "aid" in the form of cheap rice. Since then the people stopped buying local food, and farmers went out of business in Costa Rica. Now, unable to provide it's self with food, Costa Rica is forever depended on the US. Is it any wonder it was part of the Nations of the Willing during the Iraq War. Haiti will share the same fate.
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