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Dr. Laura goes "nigger" crazy on her show and then apologizes
Russell Bell:
--- Quote from: TP The Tutor(Keystyle king) on August 19, 2010, 11:58:47 AM ---WHITE PEOPLE IN AMERICA PRETEND RACISM DOESN'T EXIST IN AMERICA. They pretend like minorities don't feel the oppression.. We've made it funny for us, and for them. So they pretend like everything is all good cuz black people can say nigga and white people can send their kids to college without worrying about being raised around gangs and other stupid ghetto shit. Yeah that's real even
--- End quote ---
White people all think the same?
And racism does effect blacks. It also effects whites, asians, etc, etc. Really, there's more discrimination based upon socio-economic status rather than race in much of the country. Meaning a poor man is gonna face more constant discrimination than a (fill in the blank with an ethnicity) man.
And lets not act like its 1873 and there's white people yelling "woogie boogie" at blacks trying to go vote at the polling place every election or something.
you gon always be my latin queen bitch:
Yeah real talk bout palin
Sparegeez:
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on August 19, 2010, 05:30:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: TP The Tutor(Keystyle king) on August 19, 2010, 11:58:47 AM ---WHITE PEOPLE IN AMERICA PRETEND RACISM DOESN'T EXIST IN AMERICA. They pretend like minorities don't feel the oppression.. We've made it funny for us, and for them. So they pretend like everything is all good cuz black people can say nigga and white people can send their kids to college without worrying about being raised around gangs and other stupid ghetto shit. Yeah that's real even
--- End quote ---
White people all think the same?
And racism does effect blacks. It also effects whites, asians, etc, etc. Really, there's more discrimination based upon socio-economic status rather than race in much of the country. Meaning a poor man is gonna face more constant discrimination than a (fill in the blank with an ethnicity) man.
And lets not act like its 1873 and there's white people yelling "woogie boogie" at blacks trying to go vote at the polling place every election or something.
--- End quote ---
Well socio-economic statistics basically puts black cultures at the worst efficient. Their young are raised around (raised not bread remember that) violence, rebellious attitudes and materialism(which comes from the capitalism life style). Ghettos weren't violent until drugs were brought over to this country(go ahead guess by who). Ever since then there has been a chain reaction. We are human beings with moral obligations. If there is miseducation going on(parenting due to the chain reaction), we have a moral obligation of fixing shit, compared to saying "oh it's their own fault", man why is it their fault in the first place? Because of the environment these people have set up for them. Just my drunk Friday input(not to take away from anything I say but fuck you)
Racism is a systematic thing. There is the people doing the oppression and the people being oppressed. Everyone feels it, but with way different effects. Which side do you think feel the worst effects...hmm
edit..
And segregation is a white made thing.. jim crow laws. So it's like Blacks in America kick it with other blacks(same with other cultures, Latinos with Latinos and etc..) that's how it is in America(blind racism). So quit trynna act like shit is all equal when the system obviously favors those on top.
Russell Bell:
--- Quote from: TP The Tutor(Keystyle king) on August 20, 2010, 03:11:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on August 19, 2010, 05:30:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: TP The Tutor(Keystyle king) on August 19, 2010, 11:58:47 AM ---WHITE PEOPLE IN AMERICA PRETEND RACISM DOESN'T EXIST IN AMERICA. They pretend like minorities don't feel the oppression.. We've made it funny for us, and for them. So they pretend like everything is all good cuz black people can say nigga and white people can send their kids to college without worrying about being raised around gangs and other stupid ghetto shit. Yeah that's real even
--- End quote ---
White people all think the same?
And racism does effect blacks. It also effects whites, asians, etc, etc. Really, there's more discrimination based upon socio-economic status rather than race in much of the country. Meaning a poor man is gonna face more constant discrimination than a (fill in the blank with an ethnicity) man.
And lets not act like its 1873 and there's white people yelling "woogie boogie" at blacks trying to go vote at the polling place every election or something.
--- End quote ---
Well socio-economic statistics basically puts black cultures at the worst efficient. Their young are raised around (raised not bread remember that) violence, rebellious attitudes and materialism(which comes from the capitalism life style). Ghettos weren't violent until drugs were brought over to this country(go ahead guess by who). Ever since then there has been a chain reaction. We are human beings with moral obligations. If there is miseducation going on(parenting due to the chain reaction), we have a moral obligation of fixing shit, compared to saying "oh it's their own fault", man why is it their fault in the first place? Because of the environment these people have set up for them. Just my drunk Friday input(not to take away from anything I say but fuck you)
Racism is a systematic thing. There is the people doing the oppression and the people being oppressed. Everyone feels it, but with way different effects. Which side do you think feel the worst effects...hmm
edit..
And segregation is a white made thing.. jim crow laws. So it's like Blacks in America kick it with other blacks(same with other cultures, Latinos with Latinos and etc..) that's how it is in America(blind racism). So quit trynna act like shit is all equal when the system obviously favors those on top.
--- End quote ---
If young people in black communities are raised in an environment of materialism, it is not because some dark capitalist hand forces it (yes, the govt just loves it when a minority buys 28 inch rims and puts them on a 93 Regal). The opposite of free market capitalism, communism, has proven to be even more corrupt and unsustainable than any capitalist system so I'd say that the system we have (perfect or not) is better than what we don't.
As for blacks being at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to socioeconomics, ok, the prison stats prove this in many communities. So, does that mean that there's across the board racism? No. Yes, there is evidence the CIA (indirectly) helped to start the crack epidemic, but has every drug thats been brought in to this country been delivered by the white boogey man? Not hardly.
My overall point here is that, yes there are injustices, but the government has taken many steps to help even the playing field. Civil Rights Act, Affirmative Action in jobs/schools, etc. Will this solve every anecdotal problem in every state/town? No. We don't live in a utopia, and our society has room to progress. But I really disagree with the point that there is a system which is deliberately racist, when actually its just deliberately color blind to the point where communities who've got the short end of the stick in the past consequently haven't caught up to where they could be in terms of education/jobs, etc (which is what keeps people of any color outta jail/drugs).
The thing about a free society is that not everything will be equal or fair all the time, and sometimes it will be. That goes for the job seeker who goes up against a racist potential employer, it also goes against a white suburban kid who doesnt get chosen to go to an Ivy League school because his name isn't "ethnic" enough and his parents weren't going through any hardships.
Finally, segregation is not a white made thing. Thousands of years back this was going on before there ever was a United States of America.
Sparegeez:
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on August 20, 2010, 08:11:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: TP The Tutor(Keystyle king) on August 20, 2010, 03:11:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on August 19, 2010, 05:30:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: TP The Tutor(Keystyle king) on August 19, 2010, 11:58:47 AM ---WHITE PEOPLE IN AMERICA PRETEND RACISM DOESN'T EXIST IN AMERICA. They pretend like minorities don't feel the oppression.. We've made it funny for us, and for them. So they pretend like everything is all good cuz black people can say nigga and white people can send their kids to college without worrying about being raised around gangs and other stupid ghetto shit. Yeah that's real even
--- End quote ---
White people all think the same?
And racism does effect blacks. It also effects whites, asians, etc, etc. Really, there's more discrimination based upon socio-economic status rather than race in much of the country. Meaning a poor man is gonna face more constant discrimination than a (fill in the blank with an ethnicity) man.
And lets not act like its 1873 and there's white people yelling "woogie boogie" at blacks trying to go vote at the polling place every election or something.
--- End quote ---
Well socio-economic statistics basically puts black cultures at the worst efficient. Their young are raised around (raised not bread remember that) violence, rebellious attitudes and materialism(which comes from the capitalism life style). Ghettos weren't violent until drugs were brought over to this country(go ahead guess by who). Ever since then there has been a chain reaction. We are human beings with moral obligations. If there is miseducation going on(parenting due to the chain reaction), we have a moral obligation of fixing shit, compared to saying "oh it's their own fault", man why is it their fault in the first place? Because of the environment these people have set up for them. Just my drunk Friday input(not to take away from anything I say but fuck you)
Racism is a systematic thing. There is the people doing the oppression and the people being oppressed. Everyone feels it, but with way different effects. Which side do you think feel the worst effects...hmm
edit..
And segregation is a white made thing.. jim crow laws. So it's like Blacks in America kick it with other blacks(same with other cultures, Latinos with Latinos and etc..) that's how it is in America(blind racism). So quit trynna act like shit is all equal when the system obviously favors those on top.
--- End quote ---
If young people in black communities are raised in an environment of materialism, it is not because some dark capitalist hand forces it (yes, the govt just loves it when a minority buys 28 inch rims and puts them on a 93 Regal). The opposite of free market capitalism, communism, has proven to be even more corrupt and unsustainable than any capitalist system so I'd say that the system we have (perfect or not) is better than what we don't.
As for blacks being at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to socioeconomics, ok, the prison stats prove this in many communities. So, does that mean that there's across the board racism? No. Yes, there is evidence the CIA (indirectly) helped to start the crack epidemic, but has every drug thats been brought in to this country been delivered by the white boogey man? Not hardly.
My overall point here is that, yes there are injustices, but the government has taken many steps to help even the playing field. Civil Rights Act, Affirmative Action in jobs/schools, etc. Will this solve every anecdotal problem in every state/town? No. We don't live in a utopia, and our society has room to progress. But I really disagree with the point that there is a system which is deliberately racist, when actually its just deliberately color blind to the point where communities who've got the short end of the stick in the past consequently haven't caught up to where they could be in terms of education/jobs, etc (which is what keeps people of any color outta jail/drugs).
The thing about a free society is that not everything will be equal or fair all the time, and sometimes it will be. That goes for the job seeker who goes up against a racist potential employer, it also goes against a white suburban kid who doesnt get chosen to go to an Ivy League school because his name isn't "ethnic" enough and his parents weren't going through any hardships.
Finally, segregation is not a white made thing. Thousands of years back this was going on before there ever was a United States of America.
--- End quote ---
The thing is a high percentage of Latin and Black youth are headed towards the wrong directions due to the way things are in the streets. Who set up these streets to be like this? The thing is people act like race doesn't matter anymore, ummm yes it does. There will always be racism so to turn the blind eye on it is ignorant. Is it the same to grow up a black or latino compared to white in America? Probably not cuz chances care that Option A will be raised in a tougher environment for them to succeed in compared to option B. The problem for me is that white people think that people in the ghetto act ghetto because they chose to, and yes they do have chances to get out of the hood but when almost everyone around you is acting all gangsta and shit it's hard at a young age to chose what's best for you compared to fitting in. That's the culture now a days, and America has done nothing to change that. Just look at our education system. How is it that the worst school are in the ghettos when it should clearly be the opposite because these mothafuckas need the most education.
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