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Sikotic™:

--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 14, 2010, 01:23:29 PM ---you do understand that not everyone who worships Allah is a terrorist....just the same, not everyone who worships Jesus Christ is KKK?

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lol, thats the beauty of the argument against building the mosque over there. They are blatantly saying insinuating it, but without ever putting those words together. Shit cracks me up.

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on August 14, 2010, 01:38:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 14, 2010, 01:27:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on August 14, 2010, 11:34:31 AM ---But at the same time a secret kill list enacted into law,, allowing the CIA to kill anyone, anywhere in the world, including american citizens, if they are deemed a "terrorist" making this the most tyrannical presidency ever seen, making bush like soft, is essentially hushed up, but that's okay, this story here is the outrage! not a secret assassination list of anyone who is a "danger to national security".

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lol

Maybe we should bring back the retard. If you dont think the CIA had the ability, and was willing to kill anyone it wanted to far before Obama got into office...I dont know what to tell you. lol

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"Sigh"you are missing the point, first of all what difference does it make if he was retarded or not, he never ran shit, but secondly, by them solidifying this into law, they are brazenly announcing this power, yes, I am sure the CIA committed all sorts of murders prior to this, but they weren't given legal protection to do so. Yet despite announcing that the CIA have a right to kill anyone they wish to, and in turn announcing that americans have absolutely no rights, this is the big story.

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Making into law what already is practiced is basically saying, hey, look at this, we are doing it, and it's law, then of course it puts a spotlight on it, then people get mad and then people protest. What happened before was, don't look over this way, nothing is going on, then people didn't look. You realize this really will change nothing, other than we know what going on now. Just like before, when Obama tried to close Gitmo, he reviled all the "Black Sights" that made Gitmo look like a Holiday Inn. Nothing changed, but what was in the dark got exposed to the light. If you think anything will change with the new CIA law, you are seriously mistaken, it's already been going on.

virtuoso:

--- Quote from: M Dogg on August 14, 2010, 07:10:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on August 14, 2010, 01:38:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 14, 2010, 01:27:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on August 14, 2010, 11:34:31 AM ---But at the same time a secret kill list enacted into law,, allowing the CIA to kill anyone, anywhere in the world, including american citizens, if they are deemed a "terrorist" making this the most tyrannical presidency ever seen, making bush like soft, is essentially hushed up, but that's okay, this story here is the outrage! not a secret assassination list of anyone who is a "danger to national security".

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lol

Maybe we should bring back the retard. If you dont think the CIA had the ability, and was willing to kill anyone it wanted to far before Obama got into office...I dont know what to tell you. lol

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"Sigh"you are missing the point, first of all what difference does it make if he was retarded or not, he never ran shit, but secondly, by them solidifying this into law, they are brazenly announcing this power, yes, I am sure the CIA committed all sorts of murders prior to this, but they weren't given legal protection to do so. Yet despite announcing that the CIA have a right to kill anyone they wish to, and in turn announcing that americans have absolutely no rights, this is the big story.

--- End quote ---

Making into law what already is practiced is basically saying, hey, look at this, we are doing it, and it's law, then of course it puts a spotlight on it, then people get mad and then people protest. What happened before was, don't look over this way, nothing is going on, then people didn't look. You realize this really will change nothing, other than we know what going on now. Just like before, when Obama tried to close Gitmo, he reviled all the "Black Sights" that made Gitmo look like a Holiday Inn. Nothing changed, but what was in the dark got exposed to the light. If you think anything will change with the new CIA law, you are seriously mistaken, it's already been going on.

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If this had happened during the presidency of Bush, we both know you and numerous others would foaming, baying for his blood for this. They have openly announced that they have the legal power to kill anyone, anywhere, who they deem is endangering national security.. You are calling this a good thing because it brings to light a shady practice, yet what you want to ignore is that this practice has now been enshrined into law. Dude I don't give a fuck he is black, I don't give a fuck that he is democrat, the very fact they have announced this, should chill you to the bone, the very fact that this isn't the number one story on every publication, should tell you all there is to know about how the media works Now the fact tha this has happened under Obama should tell you that the predicted deep dark tyrannical road America is going down was not exaggerated and not hyped. Now I know there is the argument that as soon as a dictator acts like a dictator, then he falls, but that is through the media to. Yet the average, ignorant, dumbfounded democrat, indeed republican supporter, is so caught up in the head lights of "stopping the terrorists" they have not even stopped to think of the ramifications of this.

Now I know it's always been going on, I know who the real terrorists are, but they are effectively saying we will do whatever the fuck we want and we will do it with total immunity from prosecution because we will make it our right to do so. Furthermore actually sealing this into law is part of conveying the message that not only will you be murdered if you step out of line but that your life will have been in vain because we can't even be arrested, even if we are caught. This is the kind of wicked dictatorship which would have been dismissed as fairy tale less than 20 years ago and yet here we are and it's not the main subject of the media but a fucking mosque is!

Anunikke:
If Americans get upset over an Islamic centre near a place where a few terrorist killed 2000 people can you imagine how Iraqi's feel where more terrorists killed a lot more people.

.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on August 15, 2010, 06:22:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on August 14, 2010, 07:10:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on August 14, 2010, 01:38:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 14, 2010, 01:27:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on August 14, 2010, 11:34:31 AM ---But at the same time a secret kill list enacted into law,, allowing the CIA to kill anyone, anywhere in the world, including american citizens, if they are deemed a "terrorist" making this the most tyrannical presidency ever seen, making bush like soft, is essentially hushed up, but that's okay, this story here is the outrage! not a secret assassination list of anyone who is a "danger to national security".

--- End quote ---

lol

Maybe we should bring back the retard. If you dont think the CIA had the ability, and was willing to kill anyone it wanted to far before Obama got into office...I dont know what to tell you. lol

--- End quote ---

"Sigh"you are missing the point, first of all what difference does it make if he was retarded or not, he never ran shit, but secondly, by them solidifying this into law, they are brazenly announcing this power, yes, I am sure the CIA committed all sorts of murders prior to this, but they weren't given legal protection to do so. Yet despite announcing that the CIA have a right to kill anyone they wish to, and in turn announcing that americans have absolutely no rights, this is the big story.

--- End quote ---

Making into law what already is practiced is basically saying, hey, look at this, we are doing it, and it's law, then of course it puts a spotlight on it, then people get mad and then people protest. What happened before was, don't look over this way, nothing is going on, then people didn't look. You realize this really will change nothing, other than we know what going on now. Just like before, when Obama tried to close Gitmo, he reviled all the "Black Sights" that made Gitmo look like a Holiday Inn. Nothing changed, but what was in the dark got exposed to the light. If you think anything will change with the new CIA law, you are seriously mistaken, it's already been going on.

--- End quote ---

If this had happened during the presidency of Bush, we both know you and numerous others would foaming, baying for his blood for this. They have openly announced that they have the legal power to kill anyone, anywhere, who they deem is endangering national security.. You are calling this a good thing because it brings to light a shady practice, yet what you want to ignore is that this practice has now been enshrined into law. Dude I don't give a fuck he is black, I don't give a fuck that he is democrat, the very fact they have announced this, should chill you to the bone, the very fact that this isn't the number one story on every publication, should tell you all there is to know about how the media works Now the fact tha this has happened under Obama should tell you that the predicted deep dark tyrannical road America is going down was not exaggerated and not hyped. Now I know there is the argument that as soon as a dictator acts like a dictator, then he falls, but that is through the media to. Yet the average, ignorant, dumbfounded democrat, indeed republican supporter, is so caught up in the head lights of "stopping the terrorists" they have not even stopped to think of the ramifications of this.

Now I know it's always been going on, I know who the real terrorists are, but they are effectively saying we will do whatever the fuck we want and we will do it with total immunity from prosecution because we will make it our right to do so. Furthermore actually sealing this into law is part of conveying the message that not only will you be murdered if you step out of line but that your life will have been in vain because we can't even be arrested, even if we are caught. This is the kind of wicked dictatorship which would have been dismissed as fairy tale less than 20 years ago and yet here we are and it's not the main subject of the media but a fucking mosque is!

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Im more concerned with the local police's ability to shoot and kill anyone at will and get away with it, then I am the CIA being able to kill anyone who is considered a threat to the nation. Im not sure if u walk around all day nervous that the CIA is gonna snipe you out lol. But the chances of that are fairly slim id say. As M-Dogg said its something that was already being practiced whether we knew about it...opposed it....or whatever. Id rather it be a law and out there in the open instead of it being done anyways, without any knowledge by the public of it.

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