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Shallow:
--- Quote from: JohnnyL on August 20, 2010, 08:21:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 20, 2010, 08:09:18 PM ---I'd rather see Tim Burton remake Casablanca with Michael Cera as Rick Blaine and Mr T as Ilsa than ever let him near a Batman property again.
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Lol. I knew you were gonna say that. And for the record, they should never remake "Casablanca." ;D But while we're stirring the pot, I still say "The Dark Knight Returns" is overrated. It's good yes, but far from Miller's best. On the other hand, it's better than anything he's written lately.
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I'm not the hugest Dark Knight Returns fan anyway, so you won't get me up in arms. It's definitely better than Allstar Batman and Robin though. I do prefer year one and Miller's Daredevil run to DKR.
Funny fact about the Casablanca remake; When Ben Affleck was dating J Lo there was a rumor the two wanted to remake it starring themselves.
Sikotic™:
Uhhh....no.
JohnnyL:
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 20, 2010, 08:49:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: JohnnyL on August 20, 2010, 08:21:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 20, 2010, 08:09:18 PM ---I'd rather see Tim Burton remake Casablanca with Michael Cera as Rick Blaine and Mr T as Ilsa than ever let him near a Batman property again.
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Lol. I knew you were gonna say that. And for the record, they should never remake "Casablanca." ;D But while we're stirring the pot, I still say "The Dark Knight Returns" is overrated. It's good yes, but far from Miller's best. On the other hand, it's better than anything he's written lately.
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I'm not the hugest Dark Knight Returns fan anyway, so you won't get me up in arms. It's definitely better than Allstar Batman and Robin though. I do prefer year one and Miller's Daredevil run to DKR.
Funny fact about the Casablanca remake; When Ben Affleck was dating J Lo there was a rumor the two wanted to remake it starring themselves.
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Lol...Oh, man that would have been awful. Thank god that never happened. Btw, I agree with you completely on "Allstar Batman and Robin." "The Dark Knight Returns" was much better than that. I also agree with you regarding Miller's "Batman: Year One." To me, that's hands down, the best writing Miller has ever done for Batman. A few years back Frank Miller and director, Darren Aronofsky were collaborating on a movie adaptation of "Batman: Year One." Obviously it never happened and now that we have "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight," I doubt it ever will. Even though I'm very happy with the way "Batman Begins" turned out, I sometimes wonder how that movie version of "Year One" would have turned out.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: JohnnyL on August 20, 2010, 09:00:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 20, 2010, 08:49:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: JohnnyL on August 20, 2010, 08:21:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 20, 2010, 08:09:18 PM ---I'd rather see Tim Burton remake Casablanca with Michael Cera as Rick Blaine and Mr T as Ilsa than ever let him near a Batman property again.
--- End quote ---
Lol. I knew you were gonna say that. And for the record, they should never remake "Casablanca." ;D But while we're stirring the pot, I still say "The Dark Knight Returns" is overrated. It's good yes, but far from Miller's best. On the other hand, it's better than anything he's written lately.
--- End quote ---
I'm not the hugest Dark Knight Returns fan anyway, so you won't get me up in arms. It's definitely better than Allstar Batman and Robin though. I do prefer year one and Miller's Daredevil run to DKR.
Funny fact about the Casablanca remake; When Ben Affleck was dating J Lo there was a rumor the two wanted to remake it starring themselves.
--- End quote ---
Lol...Oh, man that would have been awful. Thank god that never happened. Btw, I agree with you completely on "Allstar Batman and Robin." "The Dark Knight Returns" was much better than that. I also agree with you regarding Miller's "Batman: Year One." To me, that's hands down, the best writing Miller has ever done for Batman. A few years back Frank Miller and director, Darren Aronofsky were collaborating on a movie adaptation of "Batman: Year One." Obviously it never happened and now that we have "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight," I doubt it ever will. Even though I'm very happy with the way "Batman Begins" turned out, I sometimes wonder how that movie version of "Year One" would have turned out.
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I still think the best Batman movie ever would have been in 1988 based on Year One and Killing Joke, Directed by Ridley Scott, and starring Mel Gibson.
And truth be told it wasn't that far off. Mel was an early favorite for Wayne back in 85 when Jon Peters first tried making the film. The problem was that Scott coming of Blade Runner wasn't what Peters had in mind. His only real love of Batman came from the 60s TV show and brought Burton coming off of Pee Wee. The only guarantee going back to 1980 was that Jack Nicholson was to be Joker, and in 1980 he would have been a much better Joker.
M Dogg™:
I was the one that suggested they end off the Burton/Keaton series with Dark Knight Returns, but I do agree that Year One and Killing Joke was MUCH better than Dark Knight Returns. I suggested ending with Dark Knight Returns because Burton has stated that DKR was his influence for Batman. He could follow one of two paths, go with the colorful 1960's Batman, or do something darker, and DKR was the direction he went. So in 2002/3 I though why not end it with the say Burton started his thought process.
If you noticed, Nolan didn't copy the stories but he used Year One and Killing Joke as his influences for Batman Begins and the Dark Knight. You can see the Year One influence all over Batman Begins, down to Jim Gordon's look and the end were he hands Batman the Joker card. In Dark Knight, Heath Ledger who never read the Batman comics was handed the Killing Joke as the example of the Joker Nolan was looking for. Obviously Nolan did not follow the Killing Joke, but he wanted Ledger to be of that character for the Joker.
As I said, I originally thought that rebooting the Keaton/Burton series was a great idea in 2002/3, but once Batman Begins came out I basically thought to just leave it alone. I will say this, a DKR movie would make a more futuristic Batman, complete with a stronger suit, and it's sequel can lead to Batman Begins. I use to like Batman Begins, so it's not far off to think a DKR move would then lead to a Batman Beyond movie.
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