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bird vs james
Tha A:
--- Quote from: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on September 04, 2010, 05:36:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tha A on September 04, 2010, 05:12:57 PM ---I was having a discussion with some friends about the best strating 5 ever and one was actually so confident about saying james is the better sf above larry. do people really think lebron is above bird? gimme a break, some of these youngsters need to watch some games and highlights of the best teams ever.
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bird came in and lead his team to a title in his second year, labron went and got a boyfriend to get good, fucc individual stats,bird and magic could have easily put up more numbers but they wanted to make they team great and they did,labron want to play with his friends like a lil kid, he may have the greatest althletic talent but it's about more then that, bird got that,fucc living in the moment rate the truth bird got it yell
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fo real. I don't really care about him joining the heat and all that but to say he's better than bird is just absurd, I mean he's a great player and just an out of this world athlete but he ain't toucing bird on a basketball court.
Chamillitary Click:
If LeBron James played in 1980, he would be considered the greatest thing to ever play a sport.
Same goes for Kobe before you absurd homosexuals start crying.
The game changed, people are more athletic. James's build is BEYOND what was thought possible back then.
Larry Bird is a legend, with "rings" & was caught up in a Laker/Celtic rivalry.
Put him on an insignificant team during the 80's & he wouldn't get such recognition.
Saying LeBron is better is a stretch because people are ignorant & can't put together that the game was completely different in terms of size. Nobody LeBron's build could dribble and pass like LeBron can.
So if you judge it "by the book", you can't even compare the two, it's Bird.
But if you have an open mind & think about it, James.
Tha A:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 04, 2010, 07:03:00 PM ---If LeBron James played in 1980, he would be considered the greatest thing to ever play a sport.
Same goes for Kobe before you absurd homosexuals start crying.
The game changed, people are more athletic. James's build is BEYOND what was thought possible back then.
Larry Bird is a legend, with "rings" & was caught up in a Laker/Celtic rivalry.
Put him on an insignificant team during the 80's & he wouldn't get such recognition.
Saying LeBron is better is a stretch because people are ignorant & can't put together that the game was completely different in terms of size. Nobody LeBron's build could dribble and pass like LeBron can.
So if you judge it "by the book", you can't even compare the two, it's Bird.
But if you have an open mind & think about it, James.
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not at all, you gotta look at things from both sides, what if players from back then were playing now? back then they didn't pay much attention too nutrition or working hard in the gym like nowadays, now athletes are more prepared as we evolved and learned more. I agree that lebron is a freak of nature but look at the rules from the 80's, you didn't have no handchecking and back then basketball was hard so that takes a lot away from lebron because his biggest strenght is attacking the basket and stop acting like back then there were no strong athletics guys that could defend lebron to a certain extent.only thing lebron got on bird is athleticism and everything that comes with it, bird is a better shooter, better passer(not my much), better at the clutch... lebron only got him at rebounding(not by much), driving to the hoop and man-on-man defense even though bird was too smart and also could defend because of that. put bird on a insignificant team in the 80's? how about the celtics, they were nothing in the years before bird went there. what kobe even got to do with this? and have you ever seen bird play, celtics games or games from the 80's?
Tha A:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 04, 2010, 07:03:00 PM ---If LeBron James played in 1980, he would be considered the greatest thing to ever play a sport.
Same goes for Kobe before you absurd homosexuals start crying.
The game changed, people are more athletic. James's build is BEYOND what was thought possible back then.
Larry Bird is a legend, with "rings" & was caught up in a Laker/Celtic rivalry.
Put him on an insignificant team during the 80's & he wouldn't get such recognition.
Saying LeBron is better is a stretch because people are ignorant & can't put together that the game was completely different in terms of size. Nobody LeBron's build could dribble and pass like LeBron can.
So if you judge it "by the book", you can't even compare the two, it's Bird.
But if you have an open mind & think about it, James.
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if you talked about the 50's/60's that argument would be plausible but not for the 80's. look at the people that bird faced, michael cooper, scottie pippen, dominique wilkins, julius erving, dennis rodman and so on... great defenders and athletic guys and bird came out on top most of the times. the 80's presented maybbe the hardest competition ever imo and on the court it wouldn't be just james against bird of course, the celtics had a great team like every great player who wants to succeed gotta have but bird also made them better like every great player does. now don't tell me that lebron due to his out of this world athleticism would be the best thing ever in the 80's, basketball was hard back then, unless he could develop his game a lot more his athleticism would not make him more than he is now, and with this I'm not saying he's not a great player and could go down as one of the greatest.
OG Hack Wilson:
cham is right in the fact that Lebron back in the 1980s would be the best physical speciman in NBA history
but it all depends on team mates
Magic had KAREEM plus Worthy and several others
Bird had the Chief and Kevin McHale
MJ had Pippen, Rodman and great situation players like Steve Kerr
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