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Why White People (even in 2o1o) Still Don't Get/Know Hip Hop and never will

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TraceOneInfinite:
First off, this is a nice thread, and I appreciate the discussion.  But I disagree when it comes to the new hip-hop that is out there.  A lot of it is bullshit and garbage to me, and your argument that it is dope and white people just don't understand that I think is bullshit.  Black people HAVE changed and it's affecting their music.  Like Mos Def says, "If you want to know what's up with hip-hop or where hip-hop is going, you have to ask 'where are we going' (probably meaning black people).  Point being that black people have changed and their conditions inside America have changed and it has contributed to a watering down of their music.

I do believe black people, naturally are better at music then any other race.  Still though, blacks of the new millennium have not undergone the same struggle as blacks of the 20th century endured, and therefore, the music they are creating is much more bubblegum, club music, or simply about getting money, ambition, ambition, ambition, without any articulation.   


--- Quote from: LOUD PACK SMOKE on September 04, 2010, 11:54:44 PM ---
Point being, if u Rap ABC/123 and not TheCopsGotMe/They was chasing me like an avalanche and I was dryland then we still look and listen to that nigga tha same way.  It's not about lyrics with us all of the way, it's about getting the point across the best way you know how.


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Naw fuck that.  Your wrong in two ways homie.  First of all it does make a difference if a rapper says ABC/123 or if they say "Cops is chasing me like avalanche and I was on dryland".  LYRICS DO MATTER!  How can you be a hip-hop fan and say LYRICS DON'T MATTER!  Lol, your part of the problem homie.

Secondly, what point are the artists of today getting across anyway?  What the hell kind of point is Souljah Boy and Rick Ross or even Lil Weezy or whoever the fuck really getting across.  Just trying to rap about how ghetto they are or how many clubs and bitches they be up in.

Furor Teutonicus:
^
Ok, message is clear. Put them back in chains and we get some quality music 8) I second that.

Anunikke:
I think it's pretty clear, Wayne is preparing us for the invasion from mars

BiggBoogaBiff:

--- Quote from: Infinite on September 17, 2010, 03:41:51 PM ---First off, this is a nice thread, and I appreciate the discussion.  But I disagree when it comes to the new hip-hop that is out there.  A lot of it is bullshit and garbage to me, and your argument that it is dope and white people just don't understand that I think is bullshit.  Black people HAVE changed and it's affecting their music.  Like Mos Def says, "If you want to know what's up with hip-hop or where hip-hop is going, you have to ask 'where are we going' (probably meaning black people).  Point being that black people have changed and their conditions inside America have changed and it has contributed to a watering down of their music.

I do believe black people, naturally are better at music then any other race.  Still though, blacks of the new millennium have not undergone the same struggle as blacks of the 20th century endured, and therefore, the music they are creating is much more bubblegum, club music, or simply about getting money, ambition, ambition, ambition, without any articulation.  


--- Quote from: LOUD PACK SMOKE on September 04, 2010, 11:54:44 PM ---
Point being, if u Rap ABC/123 and not TheCopsGotMe/They was chasing me like an avalanche and I was dryland then we still look and listen to that nigga tha same way.  It's not about lyrics with us all of the way, it's about getting the point across the best way you know how.


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Naw fuck that.  Your wrong in two ways homie.  First of all it does make a difference if a rapper says ABC/123 or if they say "Cops is chasing me like avalanche and I was on dryland".  LYRICS DO MATTER!  How can you be a hip-hop fan and say LYRICS DON'T MATTER!  Lol, your part of the problem homie.

Secondly, what point are the artists of today getting across anyway?  What the hell kind of point is Souljah Boy and Rick Ross or even Lil Weezy or whoever the fuck really getting across.  Just trying to rap about how ghetto they are or how many clubs and bitches they be up in.[/s]



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i read none of that shit (and wont bcuz u wrote it yesterday and not today) but bcuz I KNOW you're an Older Caucasian Male who has a bias against particular regions and eras in Hip Hop & Rap music.  your opinion means shit, and all of what u wrote means shit.   i don't care if u grew up 2 this shit, ur not me, ur not in even in tha same league as me (of course i'm on a higher level than u r).  why are u a better moderator on some shit like this, bcuz ur older and you've probably brought more records than I have?  ur kiddin' urself if that's how ur gonna cop out.  we've had our words b4 in tha past, but I'm really curious about what u have 2 say after this (even though tha only thing that can change for tha reality of the entire situation at hand is only my respect for u).  just keep it short, i'll probably be too high by then to read alotta shit, ey what my man Birdman say "i'm too high so don't speak much cuz i wont listen" or some shit like that lol... words to live by though

Chamillitary Click:
^I read none of that either. Just the three lines & laughed for a good six seconds.

That's absurd, lmfao.

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