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Why White People (even in 2o1o) Still Don't Get/Know Hip Hop and never will

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TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: LOUD PACK SMOKE on September 18, 2010, 11:14:37 AM ---That sure is absurd.  Yall have no clue about black people or what its like being black, let alone a black man, and ur tryn to tell me all about us and what we are and what we arent and so on.  Its tha saddest but cutest thing ever how d33p in denial and LaLa Land yall live in.  Its eithr that or tha attempt to belittle me has failed again, and always each time a bigger fail than tha last time.   Like im mentally kickboxin tha shit out u crackers everyday and yall kant even hang. 

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Bro I've traveled and spent months of significant time in West Africa studying the people and the culture and the history, in the upcountry's, in the cities, in the museums, slave islands (Goree in Senegal, James Island (Juffereh Roots Island) in Gambia, Georgetown, etc.).  I've been with the people there I have a frame of reference when I talk about black people that is larger than rap fans that think being black means being ghetto in America and they are trying to prove how ghetto they are or whatever.

Your right about one thing though, I will never know what it's like to be black, that's for sure, obviously... but I can still have a broad perspective on this shit.

Anunikke:

--- Quote from: LOUD PACK SMOKE on September 18, 2010, 03:14:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Anunikke on September 18, 2010, 11:25:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: LOUD PACK SMOKE on September 18, 2010, 11:14:37 AM ---That sure is absurd.  Yall have no clue about black people or what its like being black, let alone a black man, and ur tryn to tell me all about us and what we are and what we arent and so on.  Its tha saddest but cutest thing ever how d33p in denial and LaLa Land yall live in.  Its eithr that or tha attempt to belittle me has failed again, and always each time a bigger fail than tha last time.   Like im mentally kickboxin tha shit out u crackers everyday and yall kant even hang.  

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The more I look at some of the members here the more I understand where you're coming from.

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i know u do.  truth always comes to tha light whether we want to see it or not.  And 4 u recognizing that, I extend my hand to you (no homo).  ima staight and blunt talker (always been, even in Pre-K), i'ma tell it 2 u raw everytime we speak or whatnot.  Lying and seeking 4 attention (online at that) just isn't my forte'.  i know i'm not tha only 1 lookin' at Chamyra butt hurt and bleeding thru tha screen lately, and 4 what, a simple disagreement.  dudes stuck in tha TwilightZone 4real, but I guess since he's so confused about himself and life that automatically makes people like him Ambassadors to Hip Hop, or even Hip Hop Brokers if u will.

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but dude be honest.
You are more a fan of trap then hip-hop.

BiggBoogaBiff:
01-  ignore her


02-  If you (and i mean anybody) is still using MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, or whatever to meet females then you sir (not you bcuz i dont know) are a clown.  I've done the myspace, aff thing but it was only to check it out really.  I meet people in person like regular people do; clubs, bars, libraries, gas stations, mcdonalds' drive thru's, whatever.  I can't sit back and pass up all tha ass in front of me only to just sit on my ass and trying to get tha ass that isn't in front of my face but rather on a computer screen.  that shit is the most ridiculous trend i've ever heard (and i don't even believe that it's a true fact anyways, them FaceBook niggaz got bread, they got Commercial "Secret" Teams going to board meeting and shit it's been said on tha news b4).  but anyways, no.


03a-  No what makes me a better informer on this game is tha fact that it's MY heritage, i live it, speak it, breathe it every second of everyday (and i'm not using those words to be cute).  But WHAT MATTERS THE MOST is that I know this game inside and out bcuz that's what I'VE done and you knowing more than me is highly unlikely, somebody need to get Alex Trabeck my number foreal .  My race plays a big factor in that, yours pretty much doesn't (up until recently; save the white kids put more money out speeches for that other shit and The Beastie Boys were garbage... Snow >>>> BeastieBoys).  I don't doubt you have a likening to this game but to say your shittin' on most black kids all across America (bcuz I am 21 and I am from the City just for the example) with your knowledge of Hip Hop bcuz you've been around it longer is ass, y'all don't even feel or hear the music the same way we do.  


03b-  For once would people mention any of rappers in The South other than Soulja Boy and Gucci Mane.  The Haters (such as you) are their biggest marketers i swear.  You guys are their BIGGEST CAMPAIGNERS so just shut tha fuck up and buy tha albums already.  If you don't like THOSE particular rappers then fine, but don't mention them everytime.  It's when people say shit like that is what makes them look like they know NOTHING about Hip Hop music and they are truely the stereotypical hip hop haters.  you can't lie when you really put that shit to whatever you call perspective you have.  You hear a country black man rapping and if it literally isn't one of tha Elite OG's then there really isn't any kinda TRUE respect there, it's all yeah but yeah shit comin' out ur mouth.  All I know is when I was growin up HEAVY on whatever trill shit was out (Westcoast mainly, then the Eastcoast, then the south and so on in that order) that everything that came out then wasn't gold.  In fact when you truely put it in perspective you were still a kid when the "golden era" was in and you liked Whatever was coming out and it didn't really matter who was doing it, it was all fresh bcuz it just was.  that's the same way every kid from every generation has from anywhere.  nobody grows outta tha shit they loved growing up as a kid that makes them feel alive, all tha bullshit from back then was 10x shittier than tha worst shit that comes out today.  And anyways, who says EVERYBODY doesn't like music that came out before they born or wasn't really hip on as a toddler.  I still bang out Teena Marie tapes, George Clinton tracks, and a whole lotta other tapes from the 60's on up.  Who doesn't is the real question.  Someone could like a song and don't even know who it's by, there's countless Oldies I haven't been able to trace and tons of other new music from anywhere that I haven't heard past the DirecTV XM moments.  Same thing, who doesn't?  it's just stupid ass propaganda.


04-  good 4 u, you traveled.  You're still White and you were a foreigner, you didn't belong to any of those people lol.  i was pretty much raised in VA but i've been living in Maryland so long now I forgot pretty much all about tha old way.  But I'm still VA though, I got all my basic lifelong mannerisms from there that can't be changed, only thing now is I talk with a little more Maryland swagger and whenever I leave Maryland and come back home, I feel excited bcuz I'm back at home, no matter what the bullshit is.  I love MD.  Anyways, point being dog, and i've been real nice this whole time (it could be the weed i'm hittn rite now too) but White Boy your still not Black so if you visit another part of the world to "study" people doesn't mean you'll end up like them lol, you'll just learn their ways and adapt to it while your there which is easy if you've ever had to work for somethin' in your life u ain't never had (and 4 tha record i grew up pretty ok actually, i just love to start shit and make money, that's just who i am.  i'm tha most chill nigga in tha spot and I talk the least but whenever I make my move it's powerful and I don't even have to try, there's no pressure with me, i've seen it all, done it all, heard it all b4 over and over again and right now and some other time soon times athousand i'ma hear it again too.)  


Anyways, I hear you, I do, but stop trying to deflect and minimalize the point at hand.  I'm black, your white, we bang drums and instuments, y'all bang bonjos and sound effects.  We created Hip Hop and make the Hip Hop not bcuz it's music but bcuz it's our heritage.  Y'all didn't create it and y'all just follow along with whatever.  Alotta those White Teenagers who buy the music have 2 Parents who have stable jobs and can afford to give them money 4 that shit every day and as you know (atleast that's what i'm gonna say) Black children are a whole other box of gold (*can of worms synonym*).  So if niggas ain't do what we do then it may be a different story, but at tha same time we makin money from sellin them Bootlegs so at the end of the day you're spendin money on it and we're makin it.   It's okay, y'all don't have to be ashamed bcuz you're White kids and you wanna be down, we understand, niggaz is human too, that's why we live the lives we live (get it).  But don't be one of those White Fools who have this Artificial Pride about himself to the point where it clouds your judgement.  This is US, not Y'all.  You gotta blow on the grits first b4 u eat em (respect the food)


indeed

Knett:
i think you're exactly what's wrong with hiphop nowadays  loudpacksmoke, because:

1 you think that shouting on every post (song) that you're better than others and the rest ain't shit.. that sound like 80% of "popular" rappers.
2 you think that people should only rap what they see, and that is real.
   This is exactly why every rapper´s song is first about the struggle, and the second album is only about getting money and fucking bitches.

That´s what´s wrong with hiphop.
Where is the conscious rap?
Where is the storytelling?
Where is the poetry?

Oh right, that's been called underground for a decade now, meanwhile the stereotypical hiphop is getting popular.
The most successfull rapper who still uses poetry etc. is Kanye West (listen to the GOOD music).

To end this post, I refer to the first line of my 2nd point: that rappers only talk about what they see.

BiggBoogaBiff:

--- Quote from: Knett on September 19, 2010, 06:34:29 AM ---i think you're exactly what's wrong with hiphop nowadays  loudpacksmoke, because:

1 you think that shouting on every post (song) that you're better than others and the rest ain't shit.. that sound like 80% of "popular" rappers.
2 you think that people should only rap what they see, and that is real.
   This is exactly why every rapper´s song is first about the struggle, and the second album is only about getting money and fucking bitches.

That´s what´s wrong with hiphop.
Where is the conscious rap?
Where is the storytelling?
Where is the poetry?

Oh right, that's been called underground for a decade now, meanwhile the stereotypical hiphop is getting popular.
The most successfull rapper who still uses poetry etc. is Kanye West (listen to the GOOD music).

To end this post, I refer to the first line of my 2nd point: that rappers only talk about what they see.


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That's actually about as conscience of a song you can get.  They talkin about tha imagination.  Just last night I was watching "World's Biggest Boats/Boat Houses" and I'm a philanthropist in the mind so I always think about what I would do with money, I love money I can't help to think about it, what's wrong with that, honestly?  

And I am better than you, so why are you catching feelings about it, deal with it like a real man is supposed to and just move past it.  What's wrong with being less of a person than I am, nothin so chill tha fuck out.  And I don't know what rappers you listen to but you must obviously not know about too many lol.  Not from yesterday or today.  

I'm actually kinda feelin' "I'm On A Boat".  Not bcuz it's supposed to be some God Smacked You In The Back Of The Head Music Shit but bcuz I'm high right now and it sounds good 4 now (i got 3 different kinds of weed in the blunt; loud pack, homegirls stash, and tha other connect stash).  It's a corny record sure but hey why not?  If it puts a smile on your face or in a better mood then that's the most conscience thing of all.  If I like a song rappin about nothing but diamonds, cars, women, weed and it sounds good then they put in a conscience effort to make it sound okay.  See it's all Art, it's just White people and Jews like y'all who can't see the difference.

Alot of y'all put too much thought into the propaganda and have your heads shoved up everybody else's ass for so long you forget what YOU were supposed to be doing.  Do u even write lil' poems or rhymes yourself, do u even freestyle serious even if it's not serious.  Even if you did you still wouldn't be apart of us, you'd just be a white boy tryna Rap.  There's just something inside Black People's spirit (each and every one of us) that have that thing.  Noone else has it, not Mexicans, Asians, etc.  Nobody.  You can't be apart of it.  It's just like how the Italians have the Mafia, White boy you can do Gangsta shit yourself but that don't make you apart of the Mob.  Listen.  It's just like the Crips.  Anybody can wear a bandanna anywhere but if you ain't from the Neighborhoods and Lands where they originated at then you ain't no REAL Crip.  I don't care how some other Crips feel about it bcuz what I said is true.  Niggaz up Baltimore bangin' kinda hard but them niggaz (i ain't gonna say Ain't) but them niggaz ain't Crip, they just some True Rag Soldier Ass Niggaz.  And that goes for anywhere else and all of the other Gangs too.  But even those other Gangs are still just tryna be like The Crips, they just wear different colors and some have different color people.  But it's all still the Crip way.  


And White people all across the world, just bcuz you can't beat us doesn't mean u can join us.  But we can all be peaceful.  I want to kinda take y'all deeper into the mind and soul but y'all are starting to bring out the good shit.  i'ma finish smokin' this tree.


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