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Javier:
James Loney was a much better pitcher in HS.  Dodgers were one of the few teams that actually liked him as a hitter instead.  He was on top of many lists as a pitcher, and probably would have been an average pitcher or who knows he could have developed into an ace.  That's the thing, one this guy turned 18 and he was drafted as hitter.  Unless you fail as a pitcher, and this gets harder and harder as the years go by.  That's why the Ankiel story is amazing.  Back to the Loney situation, the scouts of today are much more advanced and know if a player is suited to be a a hitter or a pitcher(if of course they excel in both).  If a Babe Ruth comes up as a HS Senior in next year's June draft, he'll get picked up as a hitter and his career as a pitcher will never happen.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Javier on September 10, 2010, 09:18:31 AM ---James Loney was a much better pitcher in HS.  Dodgers were one of the few teams that actually liked him as a hitter instead.  He was on top of many lists as a pitcher, and probably would have been an average pitcher or who knows he could have developed into an ace.  That's the thing, one this guy turned 18 and he was drafted as hitter.  Unless you fail as a pitcher, and this gets harder and harder as the years go by.  That's why the Ankiel story is amazing.  Back to the Loney situation, the scouts of today are much more advanced and know if a player is suited to be a a hitter or a pitcher(if of course they excel in both).  If a Babe Ruth comes up as a HS Senior in next year's June draft, he'll get picked up as a hitter and his career as a pitcher will never happen.

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Well there really is no record of what Ruth was like in his HS years. We know that at 18 he was picked up in the minors as a pitcher and then won World Series games as a a pitcher, and lead the league in HRs the same year. James fucking Loney can't even hit more than 15 HRs a season, and he'd have to be two times better as a pitcher than a batter to be half as good as Ruth was as a pitcher.

If an MLB scout saw a 16 year old throw the ball 95+ mph and hit the ball 450+ feet and do each consistently they'd bring that kid up as both and decide to do later, or let him play both. But these people simply don't exist; except for Babe Ruth and Satchel Paige.

Javier:
I'm not saying James Loney is even an average player though, I really don't even want him on the team.  My point with Loney is that he's one of dozens of players every year that are on top of scouts lists as pitchers and hitters but only get to do one.  Even with the 95+ and HR power example, a team would rather see the player concentrate on one thing to maximize the talent. 

you gon always be my latin queen bitch:
Bring him back he needs a job and baseball nees him

Twentytwofifty:

--- Quote from: Javier on September 10, 2010, 09:41:22 AM ---Even with the 95+ and HR power example, a team would rather see the player concentrate on one thing to maximize the talent.
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Like this kid:



Looks like they won't let him even try catching, they'll throw him in RF instead.

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