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Sccit:
both of those games, lakers collapsed as a team, and it's well documented...not the same as lebron being the sole reason miami didnt win. not even close. and even if it was kobe who let his team down and not the other way around (which isn't the case, but lets say it was), both game 7 vs phoenix and game 4 vs dallas are examples of only 1 game each...lebron let his team down for a whole series. he was literally nowhere to be found in the 4th quarter of any of those games, and they were all close games, not blowouts like the lame examples yall are providing. for fucks sake, he averaged 17 points over the course of the series. u really need to come to terms with dude still having a ways to go before he's compared to the all-time greats.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: teecee on June 26, 2011, 07:51:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 24, 2011, 02:35:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on June 23, 2011, 09:18:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 22, 2011, 05:52:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jaydc is back on June 22, 2011, 05:35:55 PM ---Everyone knows Kobe needs to be surrounded by multiple all stars to win a championship, he can't hack it alone
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really? because the only other all-star on that Laker championship team was Gasol....that is not "multiple" all-stars, moron. Also, no champion in the history of the NBA has ever "hacked it alone"...u are such a faggot dicklicker, it is beyond belief.
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You were the one who said Bron had multiple all-stars in Cleveland, because Ilgauskas and Ben Wallace were on the team, even though they were past their prime.
What Jaydc should have said is "Everyone knows kobe needs to be surrounded by the most talented frontline in the league to win a championship"
whatever the case, none of these stars win on their own, and never have, especially those 80's teams like the Celtics and Lakers...incredibly talented teams with so much depth
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are u fucking serious? sometimes u try to come off as a knowledgeable analyst, but the shit u say doesn't work ... Pau Gasol as a second option is not something amazing to have ...it's not like Kobe's playing with Pippen or Kareem or a superstar along those lines. It's Pau fucking Gasol. the guy averaged 12 points in our last playoff run. Disgraceful for any1 to discredit Kobe because of who he played with and then turn around and try to act like their opinion is valid...i mean, it's expected from gaydc, cuz the dude is obviously trolling, but ur opinion on basketball is becoming just as disgraceful as any troll who ever posted here. You're right, no star wins on their own, but Kobe has done it with less than Bird...less than Magic....less than Jordan... admit it already.
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And what team has a more talented frontcourt than Gasol, Bynum, and ODom?
Anyway, NIK, you have no right to say anyone's opinion is disgraceful. Did Gasol play well against the Mavs? No he was shit. But did Kobe play well? Nah, and I do think Kobe has heart unlike other people on here, I do question why, the player with more heart than anyone in he league wasn't going balls out to try to stave off elimination in games three and four...
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ummm, kobe was 6-8 at halftime in game 4 vs dallas, genius. lakers were still down by 20, and he was literally the only player playing... after it was evident that no one was gunna help kobe, he pretty much sat out the whole 4th quarter of that game. to compare that to how lebron let the heat down in the 4th quarter of close games and averaged 17 points over the course of a series IN HIS PHYSICAL PRIME is disgraceful, and u know it...too bad he didnt have an "elbow injury" to blame this time lmao.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: 7even on June 26, 2011, 10:03:25 AM ---^He's played more NBA games than Jordan. 2006 Kobe would have dropped 65 on the Mavs in Game 4 just for the fuck of it, even if the team still gets swept, he would have dropped 65 just to show that he is that type of nigga.
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not really...kobe can still score, it's pretty obvious to those watching from the inside that if he gets the expected help from his teammates, like jordan got with the bulls or like magic got with the lakers, then he wins. if his teammates suck ass, he cannot win a game 1-on-5...it happened in his physical prime when he played phoenix in 2006, his teammates sucked ass, and he kept trying to get them going, but they just weren't there. Kobe has played more games than Jordan, but when Jordan was Kobe's age, he still had 3 titles ahead of him...scary.
LooN3y:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 26, 2011, 11:07:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 26, 2011, 10:03:25 AM ---^He's played more NBA games than Jordan. 2006 Kobe would have dropped 65 on the Mavs in Game 4 just for the fuck of it, even if the team still gets swept, he would have dropped 65 just to show that he is that type of nigga.
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not really...kobe can still score, it's pretty obvious to those watching from the inside that if he gets the expected help from his teammates, like jordan got with the bulls or like magic got with the lakers, then he wins. if his teammates suck ass, he cannot win a game 1-on-5...it happened in his physical prime when he played phoenix in 2006, his teammates sucked ass, and he kept trying to get them going, but they just weren't there. Kobe has played more games than Jordan, but when Jordan was Kobe's age, he still had 3 titles ahead of him...scary.
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honestly i think his ankle ailed him more than it was said, that was a very very nasty ankle roll at dallas before the season ended and he tweaked it again in the hornets series.
ur not going to be 100% especially with lift, feet movement, and get too aggressive u might tweak it again while playing d or when ur trying to penetrate the paint.
i just rolled/tweaked an ankle that a rolled 4 months earlier and goddamn that shit hurt i had to sit down for a min, it seemed cool enough to play so i played though it and now that i got home this shit is hurting like a mutha fucka.
ringless lebronze for damn sure aint playing if he rolled his ankle like that. remember the elbow? lmao
brandon jennings kept it real when he called out lebron for that elbow and acknowledged that most players wouldnt even play with all those injuries (in the year we beat the celtics in the finals)
i saw teh game and i saw that hit, shit was a tap ridiculous that elbow was a phantom injury, scapegoat
OG Hack Wilson:
so Kobe was part of a Lakers collapse as a team and it's not his fault?
NIK you try to tell us Kobe was the leader of the Shaq-Kobe laker teams, so that is a black eye on his leadership getting their asses kicked by Detroit
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