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M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:20:30 PM ---
thats great and all, but to say lebron is as dominant as shaq was in his peak is STILL a mockery...and to not understand that if LeBron WAS in the league of MJ's/Kobe's/Magic's, then he WOULD win another 3-4 titles, AT LEAST. it's just the way it is. he's a great athlete and a beast, no doubt. but ur acting like ur way too caught up in the hype right about now....he's still a lot closer to durant/wade/dominque good, as opposed to magic/mj/kobe good. dont get 2 caught up in the hype, my boy...i can tell ur a brainwashable cat. but let it play out before u start dubbing lebron "the most dominant player ever", cuz u gunna be lookin back at this in a couple of years and start slappin the shit out yaself.
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Nah dogg, it's to say that LeBron had one of the best single years of basketball history, it's to say that in 2012, LeBron is more of a physical threat than Shaquille O'Neal in 2000, and it's to say that I am secure enough in Laker history and Kobe Bryant's legacy to admit it.
Bottom line, Shaq could not guard a point guard, a shooting guard, the pick and roll, and many times Shaq and a liability late in games. That's how Kobe became the closer to begin with. Shaq would dominate from the first quarter to the middle of the 4th, then Phil would have to take him out on offense if the game was close, or take him out on D depending on the match up, and Kobe would close the game. LeBron until this year was a liability late in game too, only he'd choke. But guess what, in 2012 LeBron didn't choke. Not only that but he was a better defender at more positions than Shaq. Shaq could not defend on a switch, or a pick and roll, or a high screen. In 2000 he was at his best, best year he ever had, and it was great. Still, I'd put 2012 LeBron over 2000 Shaq any day of the week. Now that it's over, the question is, can 2013 LeBron be better than 2001 Shaq, this year will show if LeBron is on an incline, or a decline. 2001 Shaq was NOT as good as 2000 Shaq, but the 2001 Lakers were better than 2000 Lakers. I'm already calling the 2012 Heat>>>2013 Heat. But it's up to LeBron to work hard for number 2.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on September 05, 2012, 01:56:04 PM ---it's to say that in 2012, LeBron is more of a physical threat than Shaquille O'Neal in 2000
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lmfao....i couldnt stop laughing, brodie. i'm sorry. i tried reading the rest of your post, but i think im guna have 2 let the laughter subside.
Sccit:
alright...i was able to calm down and read the rest of your post. lemme just say that if shaq in his prime was on the current Heat in place of lebron, they would threepeat with ease. it's not even funny. i cant even believe u out of all people would say this. i dont get it.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 02:01:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on September 05, 2012, 01:56:04 PM ---it's to say that in 2012, LeBron is more of a physical threat than Shaquille O'Neal in 2000
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lmfao....i couldnt stop laughing, brodie. i'm sorry. i tried reading the rest of your post, but i think im guna have 2 let the laughter subside.
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Poor guy, if anything, if I can get you to be a Shaq fan, I still win...
http://www.youtube.com/v/qPKTLLb80Ns?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
--- Quote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 02:04:35 PM ---alright...i was able to calm down and read the rest of your post. lemme just say that if shaq in his prime was on the current Heat in place of lebron, they would threepeat with ease. it's not even funny. i cant even believe u out of all people would say this. i dont get it.
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I would agree, because looking back, Shaq's decline was not that much, but he was declining after 2000. But as he declined, he was still good enough to win for another 5 seasons. But in 2001, Shaq had a Kobe averaging 30 points a game, same in 2002, and in 2003 the Lakers just looked older as their depth was starting to show it's age, and by the end of 2004 Kobe was the main scorer and closer.
Let's put it like this, If you take 1998 Shaq on this current Heat's team, the Heat win. 1998 Shaq was better than 2011 LeBron, and 1999 Shaq was better than 2011 LeBron. Hell, 2001-2003 Shaq was better than 2011 LeBron. BUT 2012 LeBron is better than any year Shaq. 2013, I don't know, LeBron could get better, but maybe not. I have a hard time seeing LeBron have a better year than this year. Also, in a shorten year, LeBron was still dominating, while everyone else was getting injured. It's just a reflection of how hard it is not to get injured in a shorten season.
Sccit:
it doesnt matter what u think, lebron is nowhere near as dominant as shaq in his prime....NOWHERE NEAR as dominant. do u get it?
go ask around....and not on espn forums. go talk to some educated basketball heads. u sound like a teenager right now.
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