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Sccit:
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 09, 2013, 01:31:33 PM ---lebron won 2 MVP's with the Cavs
lol @ him not being viewed as a best there. quit reaching. Lebron has been the best player in the NBA for a good 5-6 years now and will be for another 3-4 years
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yea, and in between those, kobe also won 1, as well, which further proves my point- there was always a debate as to who the best was...he wasn't viewed as head-and-shoulders above the rest til he went to miami......LOL
yall are funny
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 01:32:25 PM ---
He wasn't head and shoulders above the rest because Kobe was a fucking monster and winning titles. Kobe was that much better than LeBron. Now LeBron is in his prime. He's better at 28 than he was at 23. Kobe is declined. Kobe is not better at 34 than he was at 29. Right now we are at that point were LeBron is better than everyone else. Durant is close, but as Westbrook's injury is exposing, Durant is not ready for prime time. LeBron has had Wade injured through some of this year and he still dominates. Kobe has had Howard and he can't make him better. So with all of that, you are proving my point. It's LeBron time now.
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and on the contrary, miami plays great even without lebron LOL....meaning, he needs them just as much as they need him.
cant say the same for melo, kobe, or durant.
as for dwight, dont even bring him up...dwight sucked all on his own, had absolutely nothing to do with anyone but himself. he even sucked worse in the playoffs without kobe LOL. so quit soundin like one of these laker-hating lebron groupies, cuz u doin a pretty good job at it right now.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 01:44:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 01:32:25 PM ---
He wasn't head and shoulders above the rest because Kobe was a fucking monster and winning titles. Kobe was that much better than LeBron. Now LeBron is in his prime. He's better at 28 than he was at 23. Kobe is declined. Kobe is not better at 34 than he was at 29. Right now we are at that point were LeBron is better than everyone else. Durant is close, but as Westbrook's injury is exposing, Durant is not ready for prime time. LeBron has had Wade injured through some of this year and he still dominates. Kobe has had Howard and he can't make him better. So with all of that, you are proving my point. It's LeBron time now.
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and on the contrary, miami plays great even without lebron LOL....meaning, he needs them just as much as they need him.
cant say the same for melo, kobe, or durant.
as for dwight, dont even bring him up...dwight sucked all on his own, had absolutely nothing to do with anyone but himself. he even sucked worse in the playoffs without kobe LOL. so quit soundin like one of these laker-hating lebron groupies, cuz u doin a pretty good job at it right now.
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Let's put it this way, if Kobe was as great as you are trying to make him out to be, the Lakers would be a 3rd or 4th seed. But instead they are a 7th or 8th seed, just barely getting to the playoffs. Face it Scittles, LeBron is the King right now. For the past 2 years, no one is touching him, and it'll be that way for another 3-4 years. The Heat might not win that many titles in a row, but clearly LeBron is the best player until Durant steps up.
Also, what the Heat did was smart, they built a team to best fit LeBron. The Lakers did that with Kobe in 2008 as they got a good passing center in Gasol to work inside/out to get Kobe someone to play with. On top of that they had tough as nails Derek Fisher as the PG and Odom as the garbage man PF and well I'm not sure what Radmanović was for but he did get some rebounds. When the Lakers really shined though was moving Gasol to PF, having Bynum in there to bang with centers like Perkins and Howard, getting either Artest or Ariza to be a shut down defender for players like LeBron or Pierce and building a team in which Kobe can score 30ppg and the Lakers can win. The key was rebounding as Kobe will sometimes take a crazy shot, but you have 2 7 footers and a defensive minded SF to grab the loose balls. Those teams were built for Kobe to win and when Kobe was out in 2010 the Lakers had a winning record. Remember this article...
http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/20/are-the-lakers-gasp-better-without-kobe/
Point is, those teams were built for Kobe to shine and the Lakers to win. It's that simple. The Heat built a team to maximize LeBron's skills and LeBron won. Basically the point is, that's what a player needs to win. But of course it's still up to the player to win. After all just because you build the perfect team doesn't mean you'll win. See 2004 Lakers, 2004 Timberwolves, 2013 Lakers. At the end of the day, it's up to the players to win, and LeBron is winning right now, he is the most dominate player on the planet right now, and there is nothing that can change that.
PLANT:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 12:05:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 09, 2013, 12:02:53 PM ---LOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe ;D
as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.
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again, not getting the point :stupid:
lebron's team doesnt need him to do that...they have the luxury of winning with him scoring under 20 points. the other superstars dont have this luxury, they need to put up shot after shot and take over the game with volume in order for their team to win. try to follow me, my man, cuz yall keep sayin the same shit, which has nothin to do with my point.
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Youre just a hater. Read your post again and realize the Lakers played some of their best basketball this season when Kobe scored under 20 points. Not sure what youre trying to say here. This was around the same time you claimed on Dubcc that Kobe was playing like Magic Johnson. Just rambling on trying to find excuses to claim King aint the best. SMH.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: PLANT on May 09, 2013, 03:17:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 12:05:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 09, 2013, 12:02:53 PM ---LOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe ;D
as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.
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again, not getting the point :stupid:
lebron's team doesnt need him to do that...they have the luxury of winning with him scoring under 20 points. the other superstars dont have this luxury, they need to put up shot after shot and take over the game with volume in order for their team to win. try to follow me, my man, cuz yall keep sayin the same shit, which has nothin to do with my point.
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Youre just a hater. Read your post again and realize the Lakers played some of their best basketball this season when Kobe scored under 20 points. Not sure what youre trying to say here. This was around the same time you claimed on Dubcc that Kobe was playing like Magic Johnson. Just rambling on trying to find excuses to claim King aint the best. SMH.
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lol, are u retarded? lakers played their best ball after the all-star break, where we went 28-11 with kobe beasting out his mind, playing HEAVY minutes, and literally being worked till he broke down.
slap yaself, welchboy
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