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Meho:

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--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 23, 2013, 10:15:36 AM ---I have completely written off NIKCC as a creditable basketball mind. It's not worth it.

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--- Quote from: Meho on May 23, 2013, 10:06:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 23, 2013, 08:47:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: Meho on May 23, 2013, 02:14:55 AM ---Terrible play by Indiana at the end. Well, also terrible play by Miami to end the 4th quarter. Lebron was clutch though, you can tell winning a ring lifted a burden off his shoulder.

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really? cuz i missed that....lebron was very passive until those last 2 uncontested layups.

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So? What matters is, he made those shots and won the game. Who gives a shit what he did before that. Clutch wise of course. What's important is that he took things in his own hands when the game was on the line. Contested, uncontested, layup, 3point shot...doesn't matter.

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My point is that it was more of Indianas horrible defense than LeBron steppin up in the clutch. The two layups he made weren't all that impressive, it was a defensive breakdown, and if it wasn't for the breakdowns, LeBron woulda been scoreless in the OT and Miami woulda lost game 1. He did step up to make those layups, so he gets props for that.


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If it wasn't, would have been, would have...it's all pointless. What matters is what actually happened. And it's not like it's the 1st time that a clutch basket was a product of a defense breakdown. It has happened before and it will happen again. It's "did somebody take advantage of the stupidity or not?" that's important here.

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Ur right, but at the same time, being guarded by George Hilll one on one and following it up with an uncontested layup ain't exactly enough for us to say he's a new player .. Up until that point, he was playin very similar to how he did vs Dallas down the stretch. I was watching the whole game thinkin to myself "I bet all the LeBron fans can see what I mean". Then the 2 layups came and erased that. It's just not enough to convince me, I can still see Indiana winning the series (though their chances just got much lower). He has gotten better with the nervousness, but there's still times where u can see it in his body language, and u can't convince me otherwise.

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Of course, it's a process after all. He can't make that transition over night, especially since you can tell he's not "a natural" at it. But with a ring (maybe rings), game winning shots like this, winning in general...his confidence will continue to rise and with that, his willingness to take clutch shots. He still has huge improvements to make in this area, which is kinda crazy/scary for his opponents.

Hack Wilson - real:
NBA Career Playoff Leaders and Records for Points:


PLAYERS LEFT IN PLAYOFFS ONLY

7.   Tim Duncan   4443
15.   LeBron James   3521
18.   Tony Parker   3132
25.   Dwyane Wade   2899
35.   Ray Allen   2444
38.   Manu Ginobili   2344
164.   Rashard Lewis   1090
200.   Chris Bosh   947

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 23, 2013, 11:24:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 23, 2013, 10:15:36 AM ---I have completely written off NIKCC as a creditable basketball mind. It's not worth it.

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My point is that it was more of Indianas horrible defense than LeBron steppin up in the clutch. The two layups he made weren't all that impressive, it was a defensive breakdown, and if it wasn't for the breakdowns, LeBron woulda been scoreless in the OT and Miami woulda lost game 1. He did step up to make those layups, so he gets props for that.


And lmfao@misinformation dogg writing anyone off when it comes to credibility. U couldn't hold my jockstrap when it comes to basketball knowledge, son

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Don't act like Kobe took advantage of broken down defenses. I'll agree with you that the Pacers messed up. But great players expose that and win. And that's what Lebron did, and that's what makes him great.

As I said, not worth it.

Hack Wilson - real:
Kobe couldn't even win a finals MVP until Shaq left town.  Shaq won 3 of 3 and none were even questionable.

Sccit:

--- Quote from: Keeping It Gully on May 23, 2013, 09:02:13 PM ---Kobe couldn't even win a finals MVP until Shaq left town.  Shaq won 3 of 3 and none were even questionable.

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wasnt kobe's prime

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