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LONDON!!:

--- Quote from: Sami on September 26, 2010, 03:19:27 AM ---Honestly I feel like Kucinich is a con-man. He talks all progressive for money then consistently sabotages any major progressive move to get his ass on TV.

We have young progressives coming up every day though and we'll probably have Health Care for All in California soon (because health care for all is more cost-efficient than the traditional American system) if Jerry Brown wins, because our state passed it 3 times but Schwarzenegger vetoed it.

The future of progress is in the youth because a lot of young people have challenged the DLCs and drove the Clintonites from the state party, which is why so many of them have helped Schwarzenegger over the years.

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thats what i'm saying fam, i heard he was a bit fishy but i wasn't too sure on it, because i heard about this from a unreliable source, but obviously this source was correct on this information

and much success and much guidance to you and your fellow progressive grassroots democrats in purging these conmen/woman fake politricks politicians from the party in cali, reclaim the party cuzzy, i hope this can be rolled out and replicated across each state in america, because this could plant the seeds amongst the younger progressive democrats generation to climb up the ranks and eventually a human being brother or sister from whichever community could get into the white house, because even though obama has to be one of the biggest conmen in mordern day politics, he still showed that you could be on a level(even though he was pretending, but no one knew this at the time) and represent everyone and still get elected to the white house wit progressive policy's even though obama speech's were faker than a toupee and his policy's are straight out of clinton's book, but heads didn't know any of this at the time before he started his presidency and everybody thought he was genuine, you see what i'm saying

because the white house has the most influential power on this planet in the midst of outside very powerful forces and instiution's outside of the white house, if we could get one of our kind in there again, like jfk or rfk(who probably would have got in), because that was the last time one of our kind got in or had a genuine chance of getting in, if we could do this, a lot of genuine good could be done, like a genuine peace in the middle east like in the palestine/israel conflict for example, witout the influnence of powerful lobby's dictating policy and a end to imperialist wars and agendas, you get what i'm saying, because the white house says jump and a lot of these goverments in the west will direct there foreign policy that way too, you see what i'm saying

and thats good to hear about what your trying to do wit free healthcare for all, that should be a human right, the american goverment has the money to sustain this type of system, they spend billions on imperialist wars, upgrading nukes and new millitary shit, millions more on building more prisons than inner city schools and the american goverment gives billions of dollars for military aid to the israeli goverment every year, the american goverment has the money for free healthcare for all

its one reason why i wanted to send one of my relatives to canada because of the free healthcare system, but its hard to get in there witout any qualifications because of their point system, so i've got to settle wit getting that relative into the states, but if your saying free healthcare could pop off in cali, that would be a good look, because i wanted that relative to live down south, or in the midwest where the price of living is cheaper than the westcoast and eastcoast, but this is good news, that free healthcare for all could pop off in cali, because its scandulous that one of the most developed country's on this planet dosen't have an option for free healthcare for all, because i'm looking to get into the states too to get some of that real estate money onced i've raised the capital to get my operations on and poppin, you see what i'm saying, maybe i'll have my base of operations in the states in cali instead of miami or sumthin, i mean theirs beaches, sunshine and big city's out in cali too you know, ha ha

Sami:
Yeah, I know it's disgusting. I wish things could change faster, but real change happens over time. Unfortunately we've been facing more resistance from the DLCs and their lobbyist friends on every policy issue than they ever gave the Republicans. And recently it became legal again for corporations to pour in money to campaigns so the Republicans have endless money.

California also is legalizing weed soon, hopefully. We're going to vote on it at the election. The good thing is Jerry Brown always hated the Clintons since Bill beat Jerry in 1992 by lying about Jerry so he won't work with them I think.

LONDON!!:

--- Quote from: Sami on September 26, 2010, 05:14:27 PM ---Yeah, I know it's disgusting. I wish things could change faster, but real change happens over time. Unfortunately we've been facing more resistance from the DLCs and their lobbyist friends on every policy issue than they ever gave the Republicans. And recently it became legal again for corporations to pour in money to campaigns so the Republicans have endless money.

California also is legalizing weed soon, hopefully. We're going to vote on it at the election. The good thing is Jerry Brown always hated the Clintons since Bill beat Jerry in 1992 by lying about Jerry so he won't work with them I think.

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yeah i've never heard about jerry brown before, he sounds like he's a decent guy

and cali legalizing weed if it happens will be a beautiful thing and a added bonus and incentive for me to change my base of operations in the states from miami to cali, probably la or sumthin, yes surr, ha ha

but on a more serious note, don't let the politricks fake politician infiltrators get you down and flop you and your fellow compadre's or comrads movement, wit there old boy network, conman politician shenanigans, keep your head up and keep it moving brothaman, america needs more brothers like you in the political system along wit your fellow a-alikes in the progressive grassroots democrat movement

virtuoso:

--- Quote from: Sami on September 26, 2010, 05:14:27 PM ---Yeah, I know it's disgusting. I wish things could change faster, but real change happens over time. Unfortunately we've been facing more resistance from the DLCs and their lobbyist friends on every policy issue than they ever gave the Republicans. And recently it became legal again for corporations to pour in money to campaigns so the Republicans have endless money.

California also is legalizing weed soon, hopefully. We're going to vote on it at the election. The good thing is Jerry Brown always hated the Clintons since Bill beat Jerry in 1992 by lying about Jerry so he won't work with them I think.

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You don't think that the lobbyists were lobbying for "free healthcare"?

Sami:
No, of course not. Big Insurance is spending billions to preserve the old broken system because they're parasites.

No one benefits from healthcare for all except actual people (because they get treatment), doctors (less Big Insurance scams and overruling their decisions) and I won't lie, Big Pharma benefits because people will need their prescriptions, but SB 810 has regulation of price to make medicine affordable and if/when it passes it will save the state money by cutting out Big Insurance (except for Supplemental Coverage).

Anyway, virtuoso don't you live in Britain, where there's NHS? We're never going to have that system, SB 810 is similar to if everyone were covered by Medicare.

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