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American Media Censorship and Israel
ITW [the irish boy]:
Does the fact that Israeli's took their country not enter into any of this. It's unbelievable by ANY standards that in this day in age there can be still countrys occupying like the old colonial days.
I think that was an excellent article and IGeezy, i suggest you open your mind a bit. It's a fact that censorship exists in american media. Because that is the only way you get your news, you only get one side of the story. At least where we are, there is the irish news, the english news aswell as the american and sometimes french stations. I think that gives a more balanced view though there still is alot of corruption involved.
Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for most jewish people, especially after what they have been through withWW2, but I cannot, and anyone I have talked to around here cannot, understand how you could be supportive of israewl or their occupation. I find it hard to believe that the majority good people in america are not sympathetic to the palestinians. In ireland there is very few jews or muslims so its a neutral standpoint we have, and those who have looked into the issue are strongly in favour of palestine. I just dont see any logic in the israeli argument.
ITW
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
This guy seems like just another angry Arab trying to win over people...Everything he says sounds fake, and nothing he said was backed up by facts...
And ITW, I doubt u really know what's goin on...Please don't speak on this topic anymore, dawg...If the Arabs get Israel, what will they do with it? Turn it into a huge garbage can...PeACe
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: Irish_thug_wannabe on December 20, 2002, 08:45:23 AM ---Does the fact that Israeli's took their country not enter into any of this. It's unbelievable by ANY standards that in this day in age there can be still countrys occupying like the old colonial days.
I think that was an excellent article and IGeezy, i suggest you open your mind a bit. It's a fact that censorship exists in american media. Because that is the only way you get your news, you only get one side of the story. At least where we are, there is the irish news, the english news aswell as the american and sometimes french stations. I think that gives a more balanced view though there still is alot of corruption involved.
Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for most jewish people, especially after what they have been through withWW2, but I cannot, and anyone I have talked to around here cannot, understand how you could be supportive of israewl or their occupation. I find it hard to believe that the majority good people in america are not sympathetic to the palestinians. In ireland there is very few jews or muslims so its a neutral standpoint we have, and those who have looked into the issue are strongly in favour of palestine. I just dont see any logic in the israeli argument.
ITW
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oh, and I guess you're another revolutionarry coming to life, supporting the opressed, how noble.... Lil homie, I dun need to open my mind, I know what's going on, weather u know it or not, I live in Israel, and serve in the Israeli army.
I base my opinions on facts, and not on rumours and propoganda like people who read articles by the Palestinian (so called) press and base their opinions on it, do.
p.s oh, go join the IRA, "natural standpoint" my ass, terroristic mentallity dat's what it is.
ITW [the irish boy]:
Terrorist mentality??
First off, I don't support the terrorism of palestinian extremists. They are going about it in the wrong way. I believe they are entitled to at least some of their land back, you must admit, that can only be fair? But they're doing their own case no good by bombing israeli civilians. However, the israeli's don't exactly show restraint. I mean, the tanks are effectively like the nazi's in WW2, where they are fighting a war with children. The cowards who bombed israel are dead, so you cant punish them. So it seems you have tanks chasing kids with stones in the streets.
You may wish to change "terrorist mentality" to "oppressed mentality". Because yes, irish people have had a similar situation as the palestinians. I believe the Jews also to be an oppressed society. However, they have become the oppressed imitating their oppressors, and have become the bad guy on the world scene.
Maybe in Israel and the USA Israel is portrayed as the great white hope for the middle east, but certainly throughout the rest of the world a very different message is being seen by those on the ground. It is seen as a joint operation by US and Israel to oppress their neighbours, and there is nothing the rest of us can do about it.
I have an aunt who lives in London, and she was telling me in her son's history textbook, there is no mention of the plantation of Ireland, other than it was a relative success in transforming the "savages" to "relative sophistication". No mention of the massacres, no mention of the war that lasted until the 1921. Her son has been censored from this information, while here we read about it in depth. I think that is the same type of censorship that effects the US and Israeli media.
ITW
PS the ira have been on ceasefire for the last few years. i do not condone their actions. In the past members of my family were members of the ira, but to defend our country, not to blow up innocent civilians.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: Irish_thug_wannabe on December 21, 2002, 05:39:41 AM ---Terrorist mentality??
First off, I don't support the terrorism of palestinian extremists. They are going about it in the wrong way. I believe they are entitled to at least some of their land back, you must admit, that can only be fair? But they're doing their own case no good by bombing israeli civilians. However, the israeli's don't exactly show restraint. I mean, the tanks are effectively like the nazi's in WW2, where they are fighting a war with children. The cowards who bombed israel are dead, so you cant punish them. So it seems you have tanks chasing kids with stones in the streets.
You may wish to change "terrorist mentality" to "oppressed mentality". Because yes, irish people have had a similar situation as the palestinians. I believe the Jews also to be an oppressed society. However, they have become the oppressed imitating their oppressors, and have become the bad guy on the world scene.
Maybe in Israel and the USA Israel is portrayed as the great white hope for the middle east, but certainly throughout the rest of the world a very different message is being seen by those on the ground. It is seen as a joint operation by US and Israel to oppress their neighbours, and there is nothing the rest of us can do about it.
I have an aunt who lives in London, and she was telling me in her son's history textbook, there is no mention of the plantation of Ireland, other than it was a relative success in transforming the "savages" to "relative sophistication". No mention of the massacres, no mention of the war that lasted until the 1921. Her son has been censored from this information, while here we read about it in depth. I think that is the same type of censorship that effects the US and Israeli media.
ITW
PS the ira have been on ceasefire for the last few years. i do not condone their actions. In the past members of my family were members of the ira, but to defend our country, not to blow up innocent civilians.
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the tanks don't come in to punish the incocent for the actions of the dead terrorists, It may seem so, but it's basicly to prevent more suicide bombers from coming....as for my "terroristic mentallity" statement, I take it back, it should be replaced with "opressed mentallity", that was very generalizing of me, but the diffrence is that Palestinians are being opressed by their own leadership, in their case the term "tribal mentallity" should be added to the equasion as well, since lack of democracy in the palestinian authority+the many diffrend organizations and the leadership with their many diffrend IDEAS of how bad the Israelis should be dealt with, create an inside chaos in the authority...if Israel din't exist they'd prolly just kill each other...
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