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LeBron's commercial, combined with a Jordan commercial... incredible.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on November 25, 2010, 10:28:49 PM ---^Him maturing has nothing to do with winning. He was close to winning himself, in Cleveland, before they even got him mighty Mo Williams.
The difference? He lost to a Spurs team with three all-stars in the lineup & one of the best defensive teams of the decade. He's lost to the Celtics, with three Hall of Famers & a SUPERSTAR of a point guard. He lost to the Magic, with more all-stars & great role players. You guys keep arguing this fact & I feel like you're all forgetting it's a team game lol.
Iverson & T-Mac proved it before LeBron, you cannot & will not win alone. You're honestly going to tell me swap Kobe & T-Mac back in Shaq's days & the Lakers don't still win? & that's not a shot at Kobe or discrediting what he accomplished. It's just acknowledging that, that Lakers team was good enough where any all-star caliber guard in Kobe's place would of won there.
I'm not even saying you're hating, I'm just saying throw all that bullshit "give it time" out the window; bottom line he's never had a team that was a championship roster. For him to have won in Cleveland multiple times would be something Michael Jordan, himself, couldn't have done. But now, in Miami, he has what he needs.
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Do you know why Kobe is successful now, his finally learned to play and be a part of a team. Kobe is the hardest worker in the off season. After 2008, Gasol changed his whole work out to match that of Kobe, Caron Butler after just one year in LA changed his work out and many others in LA. When you go to LA you are expected to work. Just like Chicago in the 1990's.
In Cleveland that was not the case, and with LeBron's talents they still made it to the finals one year. Granted the NBA East that year was truly a weak division and there was no other team that Cleveland that even looked good at all. Miami won there division winning 44 games, Cleveland won 50, Toronto 47 and Detroit won home court with just 53 games. You say LeBron was close but that was an extremely weak division. Cleveland was #2seed in the east, would have been #5 in the west that year. So please don't give me that bullshit he was close one year, no one in the east was close. LeBron's talents were just better than any other team in the East that year.
Of course he can't do it alone, I mentioned that, what I'm saying is he needs to find a way to make other better. His a great teammate, people have fun, but no one on the Bulls like MJ, no one on the early 2000 Lakers like Kobe. LeBron is more like Magic in that on the court, he makes you look great. This team right now is perfect for LeBron, LeBron will make them look great, once they gel. But right now they are not gelling. Come February, they might be the most unstoppable thing in the NBA, but not right now. And at the end of the day, they are still losing the East to Boston because they have nothing inside. Bosh and Big Z are not exactly ready for KG, Shaq, Perk and Big Baby. I would start D-Wade at PG if I'm Miami, and then this offseason find a truly unselfish PG. A Rondo would be perfect for them, or a Jason Kidd like person who doesn't need to score but can lead the team. I D-Williams or a Chris Paul is not the kind of PG Miami needs. We'll see.
Chamillitary Click:
^Read your last paragraph lmfao.
You're basically saying "he cannot win because THEY do not have a big man down low". That DOES NOT have to do with LeBron "maturing". LeBron is clearly in his prime, he's been ready to win, he's been that good of a teammate, it's just now he finally has teammates.
You can say it was a weak East division, but regardless, but that just continues to show that he never had a championship team. He's got it now & THEY need time to gel. LeBron has nothing left to improve on.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on November 26, 2010, 09:17:39 AM ---^Read your last paragraph lmfao.
You're basically saying "he cannot win because THEY do not have a big man down low". That DOES NOT have to do with LeBron "maturing". LeBron is clearly in his prime, he's been ready to win, he's been that good of a teammate, it's just now he finally has teammates.
You can say it was a weak East division, but regardless, but that just continues to show that he never had a championship team. He's got it now & THEY need time to gel. LeBron has nothing left to improve on.
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LeBron does need to work on his attitude. This, why the world hate me? attitude is his down fall this year. Even Wade is getting frustrated. LeBron doesn't have anyone in the middle, it's true, but he thought that this would be the year he wins a title regardless. He does not see the bigger picture yet, and that will take time. His basketball skills, as I've said, are the best I've ever seen, including a guy who wore 23 I saw once play in a Chicago Bulls uniform, and that guy was rather good. Skill wise, LeBron has it all, but he can't see the bigger picture like that 23, or another guy who wears 24 right now in Los Angeles. I mean, some people see it at different times. Look at Magic, he came in knowing the game better than any rookie in the history of the game. Were as Kobe didn't understand it until he had to understand his teammates need to be good too in order to win. LeBron doesn't see it, and once he does, he'll realize that it takes more than Wade and Bosh to help him. Who knows, by then Wade would have carried them to a title already like Shaq did Kobe.
Tha A:
He ain't in his prime yet, at least I hope. He still needs to develop, also to have longevity, his shooting/a reliable jumpshot and a post game (with his strength that would be scary), a lot of turnovers too sometimes (because I believe he can be the pg, he's already bringing the ball up court most of the times), "mature" some leadership skills and his attitude. Still imo he could/can be one of the best, if not the best ever. Gotta wait till Miami have like 50 games under their belt to pass decent judgement but if they gel it's gon be crazy, and all they need is a defensive, rebounding big man that can bang inside, unlike Bosh, they have all the offense they need, they don't need Bosh for that.
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on November 25, 2010, 10:28:49 PM ---Iverson & T-Mac proved it before LeBron, you cannot & will not win alone. You're honestly going to tell me swap Kobe & T-Mac back in Shaq's days & the Lakers don't still win?
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Definatly not. They probably would of won 1 or 2 championships, but people seem to forget all the clutch shots Kobe made during the 3peat era. Plus T-Mac didn't have nearly as good a defensive game as Kobe.
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