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The Big Bad Ass

I don't get it...
« on: December 25, 2002, 08:45:45 AM »
Why is Jay Z using pacs beat, lyrics, style on me and my girlfriend? After listening to these songs back to back, I dont understand why anyone would give this (Jay Z Version) song love. The only difference is Beyonce. Why is Jay getting away with this? Who allowed him to use the song? And why would Jay Z who was dissed by pac publicly even want to remake one of his songs? I'm at a loss for words on this. Maybe someone here can shed some light on why this song exists, let alone has a video getting air on mtv, and bet.
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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2002, 09:13:00 AM »
Yea I feel the same way. I lost pretty much any respect I had for Jigga as an artist after hearing that song. Yup!
 

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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2002, 09:49:15 AM »
Yer everytime this song comes on tv I say to whoever is with me that this fool had no right to use this song and considering 2pac didnt even like him I think its a discrace that he even considered using it.  

Hope he does it at the concert I am going to in feb tho, shhhhhh!lol
 

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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2002, 11:52:45 AM »
Why is Jay Z using pacs beat, lyrics, style on me and my girlfriend? After listening to these songs back to back, I dont understand why anyone would give this (Jay Z Version) song love. The only difference is Beyonce. Why is Jay getting away with this? Who allowed him to use the song? And why would Jay Z who was dissed by pac publicly even want to remake one of his songs? I'm at a loss for words on this. Maybe someone here can shed some light on why this song exists, let alone has a video getting air on mtv, and bet.





 >:(

i feel you homeboy man jigga out of line man pac hated him and it seems the only person whos doing something about jigga is treach from nuaghty by nature all these others aint doing shit  

  p:s there was a form on madeniggaz.com which if you sign goes to afeni or something if ya wanna try and stop the sampling


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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2002, 05:24:03 PM »
* Jay-Z is a big Pac-fan, he's Pac-influenced, and he says "r.i.p. Pac" in a song or two, if I'm not mistaken..
* Pac never really had a specifc reason to diss Jay-Z, other than "B.I.G. affiliated".
* Pac hated anyone from the East more or less... and it created VERY MUCH free advertising for Pac.
* Suge clears ANY sampling, whoever it might be * CONSIDERING: That he gets paid good for it. Pac is still bringing thaRow $$$, and cleared samples means money in the register..

= Why do people even trip so much on this? Pac's legacy is being brought further to new generations, and it gives his family & record-company money.
What I do hate though, is when somebody like Irv Gotti & Ja Rule does this, and claiming to be the sequel to Johnny J & Pac..
Call it double standards, but Irv & Ja Rule is acting like they invented the style & sound, and think they're close to GOATS.
At least Jay-Z limits it to a commercial single..
 

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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2002, 05:38:30 PM »
^^^ Nah dude I'm sure Afeni controls all of Pac's work now so she would have to clear it, even though it still goes thru Suge Publishing also so he'll still get a cut of any royalties.

Also that just isn't true that "Pac hated anyone from the East more or less". It just seemed that way from the way the media portrayed it. That's what One Nation would have aimed to change.
 

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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2002, 07:14:18 PM »
I like the song and i have no problem with people who sample tupac.
 

The Big Bad Ass

Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2002, 09:52:30 AM »
Theres just no creativity in it. Shit is almost exactly the same. And I don't care what anyone says, the man said fuck jay z. He didn't say, oh, jay z runs with big, so fuck anyone with big, he called him out by name. If I was musically talented, the last person I would want to copy/sample would be the one that said fuck me. I like Jay. But I think this was retarded.
 

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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2002, 11:47:33 AM »
Theres just no creativity in it. Shit is almost exactly the same.

almost the same? not even close jay might try to rap in a similar way to pac, but pac was rapping about a gun and the song had so much meaning this is just about his girlfriend, very wack remake
 

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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2002, 11:55:24 AM »
J-Z is a faggot bitch, i told you all he sucked......
 

The Big Bad Ass

Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2002, 01:57:39 PM »
Theres just no creativity in it. Shit is almost exactly the same.

almost the same? not even close jay might try to rap in a similar way to pac, but pac was rapping about a gun and the song had so much meaning this is just about his girlfriend, very wack remake

I meant more along the lines of beat and flow. Not meaning.
 

Jome

Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2002, 05:29:32 PM »
J-Z is a faggot bitch, i told you all he sucked......

Oh, you just made us all realize that now with your highly intelligent replies.  ::)


^^^ Nah dude I'm sure Afeni controls all of Pac's work now so she would have to clear it, even though it still goes thru Suge Publishing also so he'll still get a cut of any royalties.


You'd be surprised to see who many credits who mentions A.Shakur & S.Knight in the credits section..
 

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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2002, 05:45:45 PM »
100 % right Bad Ass.  just another reason to say Fuk Jay Z and Fuk the East Coast.  Fukin Roachez!! >:( >:(



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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2002, 10:24:30 AM »
I hate the fact that he was able to re-do this song.  Especially, because he doesn't re-do it in the same content as Pac did where he's talking about his GUN not a BITCH!

Yo Jome...I feel ya on expanding Pac's legacy years after he's gone, but there are young people who hear this song and think that it is a Jay Z original.  Believe it or not, some will not even know it's a remake.
 

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Re:I don't get it...
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2002, 05:08:38 PM »
Jay-Z is just a big ass loser