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Pats laying the smacketh down
white Boy:
^ since you mentioned vick & kolb, i wanted to get your opinion on kolb in general.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 07, 2010, 12:50:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on December 07, 2010, 10:28:02 AM ---^Of course I'm fuckin' with you.
But the truth behind it is, you still can't stop him. The Giants did all of that & still was one VERY lucky, chuck & pray to losing that game.
The forumla works.
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14 points okay. 14 POINTS for the highest scoring team ever. That was all Brady could do under the pressure. The Giants almost lost because the Pats D showed as well. Tom Brady didn't make Eli Manning only score 10 points for the first 3 quarters and 13 minutes. The NE Defense did. It's easier to stop Brady than it is to stop Bellicheck, and if anyone in New England thinks Brady is ever even close to as important as Bill they are kidding themselves.
Where as no coach Peyton ever had was as important to that team as he was and is. Dungy came the closest, but even then he never became as important.
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I dont think Ive ever seen one guy hate a player more than you hate Brady lol
Shallow:
--- Quote from: white Boy on December 07, 2010, 07:20:35 PM ---^ since you mentioned vick & kolb, i wanted to get your opinion on kolb in general.
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I think he can still become a solid starter. Depending on how the year ends up my guess is he'll be traded, but with his one year price tag on 2011 (if there's a season) they may have to wait until the end of next year. So I'm thinking he'll stay in Philly until the end of next year and only stay after that if Vick gets injured along the way. After that he'll be cut and depending on where he goes he could start again. Arizona may very well trade for him this year. I'd watch where Mcdaniels goes because he may end up taking Orton with him, and that could lead Kolb to Denver. McNabb may be gone from Washington soon the way thijngs are going so who knows if Kolb bumps him twice in a career. San Fran would def take a shot on him but they'd need a brand new offensive C to make Kolb good there. There are plenty of teams that would take him and give a shot to compete as a starter. He has potential but he's definitely a system guy right now.
And Daygo - If I met Brady I'd shake his hand and wait for him to personally lose my respect before I hated him. Of course one of the first things I'd say to him would be you're not in Manning's league and on the Colts you'd have last 6 games and that might piss him off but that's not personal. I hate his praise with a passion though. I don't like Kobe but I understand the praise. When I hear people defend Brady being as good as Manning or even close I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. I don't see the talent at the level others do. I'm sorry.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 07, 2010, 08:14:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: white Boy on December 07, 2010, 07:20:35 PM ---^ since you mentioned vick & kolb, i wanted to get your opinion on kolb in general.
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I think he can still become a solid starter. Depending on how the year ends up my guess is he'll be traded, but with his one year price tag on 2011 (if there's a season) they may have to wait until the end of next year. So I'm thinking he'll stay in Philly until the end of next year and only stay after that if Vick gets injured along the way. After that he'll be cut and depending on where he goes he could start again. Arizona may very well trade for him this year. I'd watch where Mcdaniels goes because he may end up taking Orton with him, and that could lead Kolb to Denver. McNabb may be gone from Washington soon the way thijngs are going so who knows if Kolb bumps him twice in a career. San Fran would def take a shot on him but they'd need a brand new offensive C to make Kolb good there. There are plenty of teams that would take him and give a shot to compete as a starter. He has potential but he's definitely a system guy right now.
And Daygo - If I met Brady I'd shake his hand and wait for him to personally lose my respect before I hated him. Of course one of the first things I'd say to him would be you're not in Manning's league and on the Colts you'd have last 6 games and that might piss him off but that's not personal. I hate his praise with a passion though. I don't like Kobe but I understand the praise. When I hear people defend Brady being as good as Manning or even close I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. I don't see the talent at the level others do. I'm sorry.
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I think he's defintely one of the best QB's over the last decade. But i agree he doesnt compare to Manning. I would DEFINITELY take Rodgers over Brady as well.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 07, 2010, 08:51:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 07, 2010, 08:14:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: white Boy on December 07, 2010, 07:20:35 PM ---^ since you mentioned vick & kolb, i wanted to get your opinion on kolb in general.
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I think he can still become a solid starter. Depending on how the year ends up my guess is he'll be traded, but with his one year price tag on 2011 (if there's a season) they may have to wait until the end of next year. So I'm thinking he'll stay in Philly until the end of next year and only stay after that if Vick gets injured along the way. After that he'll be cut and depending on where he goes he could start again. Arizona may very well trade for him this year. I'd watch where Mcdaniels goes because he may end up taking Orton with him, and that could lead Kolb to Denver. McNabb may be gone from Washington soon the way thijngs are going so who knows if Kolb bumps him twice in a career. San Fran would def take a shot on him but they'd need a brand new offensive C to make Kolb good there. There are plenty of teams that would take him and give a shot to compete as a starter. He has potential but he's definitely a system guy right now.
And Daygo - If I met Brady I'd shake his hand and wait for him to personally lose my respect before I hated him. Of course one of the first things I'd say to him would be you're not in Manning's league and on the Colts you'd have last 6 games and that might piss him off but that's not personal. I hate his praise with a passion though. I don't like Kobe but I understand the praise. When I hear people defend Brady being as good as Manning or even close I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. I don't see the talent at the level others do. I'm sorry.
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I think he's defintely one of the best QB's over the last decade. But i agree he doesnt compare to Manning. I would DEFINITELY take Rodgers over Brady as well.
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I don't think I could name 5 QBs in the last ten years that I felt were better than Brady over the course of the ten years, but I think that says more about the NFL than it does about Brady. No one is patient anymore. They drop QBs and HCs like hot potatoes. They want QBs to come in and excel right away and when it doesn't happen they blame the coach and fire everyone.
If I go back to the decade prior and see Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, John Elway and Brett Favre. Right away I can name 6 QBs that played on there teams for almost the whole ten years of the decade none of those teams would be as good with Brady except maybe the Cowboys. Warren Moon is another QB on a team Brady would have had trouble on.
As far as QBs now I think would be better for the Raiders than Brady; Manning, Rodgers, Vick, Roth ( just because of his legs), and maybe that's it. Other QBs I'd think could do as good as Brady on Oakland are Brees, Rivers, McNabb, and maybe Matt Ryan if he finishes well this year. Every other QB would have to come with the right OC to do anything. What I mean is Cassel and Wies or Orton and McDaniels, Cutler and Martz. Now Brees and Payton would put them above just Brady but not Brady/McDaniels. Brady/McDaniels might be second only to Manning. Now if they got Brady/McDaniels/Scarnecchia that might be the best bet next to Peyton and Gruden which I still think needs to happen because that would be a combo so viscous the NFL would have to separate them. Just imagine if the Bucs traded Dungy for Manning the same year Gruden got there. That's a 3peat waiting to happen.
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