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Quote from: LazyLatino on January 01, 2003, 06:31:46 AMQuote from: hellrazor on December 31, 2002, 05:35:56 PMPac was rappin over Public Enemy type beats on his first two albums, especially on Strictly, which went platinum. Eazy had impact, but he wasnt one of Pac's influences. Rakim, Ice Cube, PE, and such were his main influences.Eazy E could have never existed, and Pac woulda still became the best selling rapper of all time.Whatta fuck are you talkin about? Public Enemy beats? Bobcat and Laylaw who did HIPHOP gangsta beats for the likes of:Eazy-E,Ice Cube and others...They are L.A. Producers...The only from the Eastcoast on that album is Special K...Dj Daryl is from tha Bay..The only reason Pac EVER could blow up is becuase of Eazy-E and Ice-t becuz they are the pioneers of "Gangsta" Rap...he did sell 6 million + with a album full of WESTCOAST beats and claimin WESTSIDE and clamin to be a THUG! shit Look at the albumcover Do you think that Pac would have sold those numbers with an album filled of song like Dear Mama??? HELL NO! bullshit. You people who say Eazy is responsible for Pac's success are a fucking trip. Yall have yet to show me one piece of HARD evidence that shows Eazy is responsible for Pac's success.Just because Eazy and Ice T pioneered gangsta rap doesnt mean they are fully responsible for Pac's success. I promise you, if Eazy never existed, Pac woulda still sold millions of records. And yes, Strictly had Public Enemy type beats. Listen to Fear Of A Black Planet, then listen to Strictly 4 My Niggaz......very similiar production..Also, I dont know where you've been, but AEOM is past 10 million now.
Quote from: hellrazor on December 31, 2002, 05:35:56 PMPac was rappin over Public Enemy type beats on his first two albums, especially on Strictly, which went platinum. Eazy had impact, but he wasnt one of Pac's influences. Rakim, Ice Cube, PE, and such were his main influences.Eazy E could have never existed, and Pac woulda still became the best selling rapper of all time.Whatta fuck are you talkin about? Public Enemy beats? Bobcat and Laylaw who did HIPHOP gangsta beats for the likes of:Eazy-E,Ice Cube and others...They are L.A. Producers...The only from the Eastcoast on that album is Special K...Dj Daryl is from tha Bay..The only reason Pac EVER could blow up is becuase of Eazy-E and Ice-t becuz they are the pioneers of "Gangsta" Rap...he did sell 6 million + with a album full of WESTCOAST beats and claimin WESTSIDE and clamin to be a THUG! shit Look at the albumcover Do you think that Pac would have sold those numbers with an album filled of song like Dear Mama??? HELL NO!
Pac was rappin over Public Enemy type beats on his first two albums, especially on Strictly, which went platinum. Eazy had impact, but he wasnt one of Pac's influences. Rakim, Ice Cube, PE, and such were his main influences.Eazy E could have never existed, and Pac woulda still became the best selling rapper of all time.
^^^lmao that was a good point i never thought of it that way...and actually its my understanding that double discs count as two when theyre sold so in reality pac only sold 5mil....if that is the truth...im not sure...anyway...if it wasnt for Eazy, Ice-T, NWA, Too Short payin the dues of actually gettin attention to the west pac wouldve never blew up...plus pac never blew up until deathrow...so if it wasnt for Eazy, im almost 100 % sure Deathrow wouldve never started...Dre would probably still be with the wreckin cru...and yall cant say pac blew up prior to deathrow...theres no way u can say that..if i hit up 90% of pac fans and tell them "name me three songs from 'Me Against The World' that were not singles." they just look at me like huh?...but when i say "name three songs from 'all eyez on me' that were not singles" and they name em...easily...if u even think for a minute that pac wouldve blew up on the east ur kidding urself...if it wasnt for pac reppin the west and dissin the east he wouldve never got so much attention...Preach on!
i think if we're gonna argue whos a better rapper, then we should do just that. to say eazy is better because he opened the door for west coast acts isn't fair. if you're gonna argue like that, then you have to say there would also be no tupac with Too Short. he came out from the bay way before Pac. so therefore Too Short is better than pac right? so to me that argument is bullshit. make your point based on lyrics and flow and things like that. i love eazy, i own every solo and NWA album. he had a great voice, and a good flow. but many many times didn't write his own lyrics. and as far as his lyrics go, he stuck to one subject. its no comparison. Pac was lyrically superior, had a killer flow, wrote his own rhymes, and was one of the most diverse rappers ever (subject wise). so to me, under these criteria, its pac hands down.
bullshit. You people who say Eazy is responsible for Pac's success are a fucking trip. Yall have yet to show me one piece of HARD evidence that shows Eazy is responsible for Pac's success.Just because Eazy and Ice T pioneered gangsta rap doesnt mean they are fully responsible for Pac's success. I promise you, if Eazy never existed, Pac woulda still sold millions of records. And yes, Strictly had Public Enemy type beats. Listen to Fear Of A Black Planet, then listen to Strictly 4 My Niggaz......very similiar production..Also, I dont know where you've been, but AEOM is past 10 million now. Bullshit? I gave you all the evidence you needed..but becuz you dont know SHIT about rap you didnt get it. Pac was goin barely Platinum with his other records BEFORE All Eyes on Me. You talkin about the production..if you didnt know in 1993 EVERYBODY and their moma did HIPHOP beats. Then came a group called Above the law and a dude named Dr Dre and changed the sound of the Westcoast..with funk and synths and shit. Those same beats that 2pac used for his ALL EYES ON ME record. When i said 6 million i was referring at the time this record "new" of course it has sold over 10 million by now..its 2003 now But i guess this is hard for you to understand, you werent probably even born in 1988.
Quote from: hellrazor on January 01, 2003, 08:19:17 PMQuote from: LazyLatino on January 01, 2003, 06:31:46 AMQuote from: hellrazor on December 31, 2002, 05:35:56 PMPac was rappin over Public Enemy type beats on his first two albums, especially on Strictly, which went platinum. Eazy had impact, but he wasnt one of Pac's influences. Rakim, Ice Cube, PE, and such were his main influences.Eazy E could have never existed, and Pac woulda still became the best selling rapper of all time.Whatta fuck are you talkin about? Public Enemy beats? Bobcat and Laylaw who did HIPHOP gangsta beats for the likes of:Eazy-E,Ice Cube and others...They are L.A. Producers...The only from the Eastcoast on that album is Special K...Dj Daryl is from tha Bay..The only reason Pac EVER could blow up is becuase of Eazy-E and Ice-t becuz they are the pioneers of "Gangsta" Rap...he did sell 6 million + with a album full of WESTCOAST beats and claimin WESTSIDE and clamin to be a THUG! shit Look at the albumcover Do you think that Pac would have sold those numbers with an album filled of song like Dear Mama??? HELL NO! bullshit. You people who say Eazy is responsible for Pac's success are a fucking trip. Yall have yet to show me one piece of HARD evidence that shows Eazy is responsible for Pac's success.Just because Eazy and Ice T pioneered gangsta rap doesnt mean they are fully responsible for Pac's success. I promise you, if Eazy never existed, Pac woulda still sold millions of records. And yes, Strictly had Public Enemy type beats. Listen to Fear Of A Black Planet, then listen to Strictly 4 My Niggaz......very similiar production..Also, I dont know where you've been, but AEOM is past 10 million now. so AEOM is over 10 mill, so what? nelly sold 9 million on a single album (not a double) , so what's your point