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It's official -- PACQUIAO vs. MOSLEY on May 7, 2011
D-Nice:
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--- Quote from: Sikotic™ on December 23, 2010, 12:03:12 PM ---Mosley is a dangerous fighter who seems to put on his best performances when he is the underdog. This sounds like it could be a good one.
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^this. Manny better hope that right hand of Mosley loss some of it's sting from the Mayweather fight and is more Mora then Margarito. If not, Manny might go to sleep. For as many punches as he throws he takes quite a few also (see Marquez fight, also Erik Morales)
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Yeah, Manny will have fight a very smart fight. Mosley, P4P, is one of the most powerful punchers....I would say...ever. He rocked Mayweather in their fight, but then stopped punching after that. The reason he could never get off on Mayweather after the big punch was he started looking for the KO with one big shot rather than throwing combinations. You cant do that with Mayweather or he will make you look bad. But at one point in his career, Mosley had the highest KO percentage of any champion in history when he was 38-0 with 35 KO's. Crazy.
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And Manny's defense is not half as good as Floyd's so Shane will have alot more opportunites to hit him and hit him often. Sitck and move, stick and move
DeeezNuuuts83:
--- Quote from: Sikotic™ on December 24, 2010, 12:18:14 PM ---Where is this fight planned to go down? I know Mosley has fought quite a few times in LA so if that's where they're doing it, I might rob a bank so I can get some decent nosebleed seats for $500 a pop.
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MGM in Vegas... Manny's first time back there since he fought Cotto in November 2009.
--- Quote from: D~Nice on December 24, 2010, 12:33:16 PM ---And Manny's defense is not half as good as Floyd's so Shane will have alot more opportunites to hit him and hit him often. Sitck and move, stick and move
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But Floyd's offense isn't half as good as Pacquiao's. Shane might have more opportunities to hit Manny than he did against Floyd, but he will also get hit much more than he got hit against Floyd, and rest assured they'll be harder punches. Also, while Floyd was landing clean, effective punches, none of them were really hurting Shane that much... he was just getting beat to the punch and wasn't quick enough to dodge. But if he was huffing and puffing like that dodging Floyd's low punch output (and I do think he wasted a lot of energy with his upper body movement in the earlier rounds), how tired do you think he'll be trying to dodge five-punch combos thrown back to back to back, especially when the punches that connect are the kind that have been putting people to the mat (i.e. Marquez, Diaz, Hatton and Cotto) or turning people's faces into ground beef (i.e. Diaz, De La Hoya, Cotto and Margarito)?
Also, Mayweather would've been put on his ass if he hadn't grabbed onto Shane's arm the way he did in the second round. He knew he was in trouble, especially when you notice that he had switched from his normal position to having both hands protecting his face toward the end of that round. Luckily for him, Mosley ran out of gas and basically gave the fight away. And don't forget that even Cotto scored a UD victory against a younger Mosley.
DeeezNuuuts83:
I was reading that Arum suggested that Marquez (who has no credibility yet at welterweight) should fight Berto (who has no credibility yet as a winner against a big-name fighter), and that the winner would be a legitimate contender for Pacquiao's next fight. I think that's fair.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on December 30, 2010, 08:11:57 PM ---I was reading that Arum suggested that Marquez (who has no credibility yet at welterweight) should fight Berto (who has no credibility yet as a winner against a big-name fighter), and that the winner would be a legitimate contender for Pacquiao's next fight. I think that's fair.
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I like that idea, but Arum isnt in control of that happening anyways. I like Berto alot. I think the only problem with him is that he doesnt have the name recognition yet. In the boxing world he is known. But thats about it. Fuckin Floyd...it sucks that we are even talking about this shit lol. We should be talking about the upcoming Pacquiao/Mayweather fight...and possible rematch...and possible rubber match, etc.
D-Nice:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on December 27, 2010, 06:37:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sikotic™ on December 24, 2010, 12:18:14 PM ---Where is this fight planned to go down? I know Mosley has fought quite a few times in LA so if that's where they're doing it, I might rob a bank so I can get some decent nosebleed seats for $500 a pop.
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MGM in Vegas... Manny's first time back there since he fought Cotto in November 2009.
--- Quote from: D~Nice on December 24, 2010, 12:33:16 PM ---And Manny's defense is not half as good as Floyd's so Shane will have alot more opportunites to hit him and hit him often. Sitck and move, stick and move
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But Floyd's offense isn't half as good as Pacquiao's. Shane might have more opportunities to hit Manny than he did against Floyd, but he will also get hit much more than he got hit against Floyd, and rest assured they'll be harder punches. Also, while Floyd was landing clean, effective punches, none of them were really hurting Shane that much... he was just getting beat to the punch and wasn't quick enough to dodge. But if he was huffing and puffing like that dodging Floyd's low punch output (and I do think he wasted a lot of energy with his upper body movement in the earlier rounds), how tired do you think he'll be trying to dodge five-punch combos thrown back to back to back, especially when the punches that connect are the kind that have been putting people to the mat (i.e. Marquez, Diaz, Hatton and Cotto) or turning people's faces into ground beef (i.e. Diaz, De La Hoya, Cotto and Margarito)?
Also, Mayweather would've been put on his ass if he hadn't grabbed onto Shane's arm the way he did in the second round. He knew he was in trouble, especially when you notice that he had switched from his normal position to having both hands protecting his face toward the end of that round. Luckily for him, Mosley ran out of gas and basically gave the fight away. And don't forget that even Cotto scored a UD victory against a younger Mosley.
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Oh I have no doubt Floyd's offense is as good as Manny. I think Manny's offense at times is overrated due to the actual punch output he has. The reason you wont see Floyd open it up and let his hands go is because he is a defensive fighter by nature 1st and foremost. He will not put himself in a position to be countered by being offensive. Like it or not that's him. But look no further than the Gotti fight to see his combos and offense on display.
And he did have Mosley hurt a couple times in that fight in the later rounds. Maybe if he did let his hands go a lil bit more he would have possibly got a stoppage. I think if Shane picks his spots against Manny, he has the speed and definitely the power to knock Manny on his ass and steal the fight. Question is can he be the young Shane 1 more time.
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