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It's official -- PACQUIAO vs. MOSLEY on May 7, 2011
Javier:
I'm not watching anymore fights with both of these clowns until they either face each other or fight Sergio Martinez.
OG Hack Wilson:
boxing succs now
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--- Quote from: Javier on December 22, 2010, 05:38:48 PM ---Not really proving a good point
-Mayweather beat a younger De La Hoya at his best weight 154 compared to 147 and with gloves that De La Hoya wanted
-Mayweather set the blueprint for Hatton
-Mayweather vs Mosley and the events after is going exactly how Mayweather predicted it before even choosing to fight Mosley. He was "ducking" Mosley, then when he shuts him down people will say "Oh he's too told etc". It's been a lose-lose situation from the start, and now Pac is going to "prove" he's better than Mayweather by beating a 1 year older Mosley? NAAAA
If Mayweather ducked Margarito, then what Pac is doing is even worse. Mayweather actually fought the WBC champ instead of the Margarito fight. There IS money with Pac vs Berto. There is TONS of money with Pac vs Martinez/JMM.
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Manny doesnt really have to prove he is better than Mayweather, as Mayweather has now been ducking Pacquiao. Im not even saying Manny is doing it on purpose. But from a fans perspective Im seeing Manny take on the same opponents and beat them far easier than Mayweather could. If De La Hoya was shot, he was shot well before fighting Mayweather and you might not remember, but De La Hoya was actually controlling that fight early when he was jabbing. He stopped jabbing, and was done. Manny dominated him from beginning to end. Nobody has ever seen De La Hoya take a beating like that. There was no blueprint to beating Hatton. Every good trainer out there could come up with a blue print to beat him. Really, every good trainer can come up with a blue print to beating any fighter. Its just that you cant always carry out that blue print. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao did it. Pacquiao just did it far better. And the reason things are going the way Mayweather predicted is because it is the truth lol. He was ducking Mosley forever, and took the fight when he was older. You really think Mosley after a year is completely spent...but wasnt against Mayweather? LOL. If Manny beats up Mosley then he will outdo Mayweather.
And how is it worse? You think there is as much money in a Pac vs Berto fight as there is in Pac vs Mosley??? lol. I like Berto, and he is good. Better than Mosley at this point. But no one outside of the educated boxing world knows who he is! A fight against JMM is kind of silly at this point. For one Manny will crush him now. For two, what could it prove at this point? It would be one thing if the first two fights were split. Then a 3rd fight SHOULD happen. But they werent. And Martinez isnt willing to drop far enough in weight...and Im pretty sure Pacquiao's camp said they didnt want to take on another much bigger fighter like that. People have gotten spoiled by Pacquiao fighting these giants, that they want him to keep taking on big guys...forgetting that this isnt normal for boxing.
Javier:
-Mayweather ducking Pac? Please. Arum's recent stunt during the fight negotiations has really stuck I guess. The fight was ready to go, but Pacquiao felt he was gonna get drained from a drop of blood LMAO. Then Arum pulled off the stunt where it was their terms and the deadline was on a night. Motherfucker even held a press conference.
-Mayweather ducking Mosley is a lot of BS. Mayweather was ready for a fight with Mosley, but Mosley decided to take a vacation.
-Yeah, I clearly remember when Mayweather took out Oscar's jab. There is no other boxer better right now that can make in ring adjustments as good as Floyd.
-Last I remember, Mosley was fighting the winner of the 1st Contender and it was a draw on non PPV HBO, he's not the same draw anymore. He peaked vs Margarito. Pacquiao can face anybody, and it will bring in ratings. So yeah, might as well choose a decent fight.
-Blueprint was still set by Floyd himself. This dude doesn't need a trainer to tell him how to approach the match.
-Pac himself isn't normal for boxing, for going up so much in weight and being so powerful. If he's juiced or not, I don't really care. At this point he's a comfortable welterweight. We all know he can handle a fight vs a 154 pounder.
-Pac will crush JMM, but he won't crush Mosley? This is the same argument Floyd fans were making with Cotto and Margarito. Obviously there is a class difference between Floyd and Cotto and Margarito, but people still said he was ducking them. But now, it's okay to say "nah he can't fight JMM cuz he will crush him"
-And another point to add, two different styles of boxers. Of course one will look automatically look better doing it. That's why no point is being proved with these fights.
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--- Quote from: Javier on December 23, 2010, 12:43:06 AM ----Mayweather ducking Pac? Please. Arum's recent stunt during the fight negotiations has really stuck I guess. The fight was ready to go, but Pacquiao felt he was gonna get drained from a drop of blood LMAO. Then Arum pulled off the stunt where it was their terms and the deadline was on a night. Motherfucker even held a press conference.
-Mayweather ducking Mosley is a lot of BS. Mayweather was ready for a fight with Mosley, but Mosley decided to take a vacation.
-Yeah, I clearly remember when Mayweather took out Oscar's jab. There is no other boxer better right now that can make in ring adjustments as good as Floyd.
-Last I remember, Mosley was fighting the winner of the 1st Contender and it was a draw on non PPV HBO, he's not the same draw anymore. He peaked vs Margarito. Pacquiao can face anybody, and it will bring in ratings. So yeah, might as well choose a decent fight.
-Blueprint was still set by Floyd himself. This dude doesn't need a trainer to tell him how to approach the match.
-Pac himself isn't normal for boxing, for going up so much in weight and being so powerful. If he's juiced or not, I don't really care. At this point he's a comfortable welterweight. We all know he can handle a fight vs a 154 pounder.
-Pac will crush JMM, but he won't crush Mosley? This is the same argument Floyd fans were making with Cotto and Margarito. Obviously there is a class difference between Floyd and Cotto and Margarito, but people still said he was ducking them. But now, it's okay to say "nah he can't fight JMM cuz he will crush him"
-And another point to add, two different styles of boxers. Of course one will look automatically look better doing it. That's why no point is being proved with these fights.
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You are way too much of a Mayweather fan man
And the entire world, ESPN, everyone is of the opinion that Floyd is ducking Pacquiao except for a few blind Mayweather fans. Pacquiao had those beliefs about giving blood right before a fight far before the Mayweather fight was even dreamt up. Mayweather tried to use that to his advantage to avoid the fight. What Pacquiao agreed to was more than reasonable the first time. He did not want to give blood the 3 weeks before the fight, but would give blood before that...AND immediately following the fight. If Mayweather wanted the fight at that point he would have accepeted. It would prove Manny wasnt on anything during training, and prove nothing was in his system on fight night. The second fight Manny agreed to all of Floyds terms. Floyd still ignored it...instead he went on vacation to Puerto Rico to visit Cotto lol. The deadline means nothing. Arum gave the deadline, but didnt say they would NOT take a fight with Floyd after the deadline. He simply said that they would have to move on and negotiate with other fighters if Floyd didnt agree by the deadline. Prior to that, they were ONLY negotiating with Floyds people. Floyds people who lied and said there were never negotiations..even though HBO had come forward and said there was.
And everyone knows of Mayweathers ducking of fighters in their prime man. He never wanted to take a fight with Mosley when Mosley was in his prime. Oh well, I dont really give a shit. But Mosley in his prime would have KO'd Mayweather without a doubt. And we all know about Mayweather ducking Margarito...he has been ducking him for years.
Again, the blueprint was already out there. Mayweather just was the first to do it. Pacquiao and Mayweather didnt fight the same fight. They never would. Hatton is just easy to hit, and Pacquiao is a more aggressive fighter with much more power. So he crushed Hatton.
The difference with JMM is that they have already faught, twice. It isnt just the fact that Manny will crush him. Its the fact that they have faught twice and the fights werent split. Whats the point? I love trilogies, but when the first two fights are split and you have a rubber match.
People say Floyd was ducking Margarito because he was a strong chinned fighter with a high work rate who can make you look ugly in a fight. Mayweather didnt think it was worth the risk.
You are in the minority now man with the defense of Floyd. Again like I said, Throughout his whole career I was a bigtime Floyd Mayweather fan. I love him IN the ring. Sure, I wish he was a little more agressive and had more power. But I love a great boxer. But he has disappointed me so much with this shit. He has completely showed himself to be a strait up pussy. Maybe he is just smart, but a pussy nonetheless. Floyd knows he is ONLY a big draw because he is undefeated and people dont like him. Manny can lose, even to him, and people will stay pay to watch his fights. People dont pay to watch Floyd fight...they pay to watch him lose. People just want to see someone kick the shit out of him. So the minute he loses, he wont draw shit. Not to mention there goes his perfect record which is ALL he has to argue himself as the greatest. He doesnt seem to realize that all of the greatest fighters have losses. What makes a fighter great is how they captivate the crowd and overcome adversity. Not just handpicking opponents and beating them. He claims to be all about the money, but wont take the fight that will earn him the biggest payday he has or will ever see in his life. He will make more off the Pacquiao fight then 3 fights combines. Not to mention, the rematch. And if we are lucky...a third fight. They could make the greatest (or one of) boxing trilogy ever. But Floyd is too busy ducking, making excuses, going on vacation, and beating up his babies mama.
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