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NFL Power Rankings going into the final week of season
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Carlton Banks on December 27, 2010, 08:56:00 PM ---a top 5 QB????
you can say top 10 QB but better than Manning/Brady/Vick/Brees/Big Ben?
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Brady would die in Green Bay, while Rodgers would more than excel in NE.
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 27, 2010, 09:03:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Carlton Banks on December 27, 2010, 08:56:00 PM ---a top 5 QB????
you can say top 10 QB but better than Manning/Brady/Vick/Brees/Big Ben?
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Brady would die in Green Bay, while Rodgers would more than excel in NE.
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Besides speculation, may I see some fact behind this erroneous statement?
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on December 27, 2010, 09:06:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 27, 2010, 09:03:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Carlton Banks on December 27, 2010, 08:56:00 PM ---a top 5 QB????
you can say top 10 QB but better than Manning/Brady/Vick/Brees/Big Ben?
--- End quote ---
Brady would die in Green Bay, while Rodgers would more than excel in NE.
--- End quote ---
Besides speculation, may I see some fact behind this erroneous statement?
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Facts, under constant pressure with little run game and finesse passes required Brady has historically struggled. I know it's unpopular to think he can't make the throws, but he can't make the throws. Fade routes and over 15 yard needle threaders are outside of Brady's talents, and they are a big part of the McCarthy offense. It was built around Favre's abilities, and Rodgers was chosen because he showed he could do it too. Brady couldn't beat Brian Griese for a starting job the first two years, and just barely beat out an MLB 3rd basemen for the next two years, because he couldn't make those throws. These are facts. Stats don't show what the throws were. They just show the stats. In the first game of the season last year Denver beat the Bengals because of an 87 yard TD pass from Kyle Orton to Brandon Stokely. Now look at the fucking replay and tell me why Orton should get anything added to his stat sheet. They should have a "dropped INT" stat for QBs.
Chamillitary Click:
^What makes you think that if he went to Green Bay they would make him run McCarthy's offense? Brady would sit down with his coaches, like they all do, & tell them what plays he comfortable running with. If we're going to play fantasy island over here, we don't have to make it beyond unrealistic. They would run those plays in practice & maybe two pre-season games & realize it doesn't work & scrap it.
Let's be honest for once, you use to say "He won rings because he had the best defense, a good run game & the best line"; that was nearly 10 years ago. Now he has an average defense, statistically they are below average, most certainly worse than the ring years, he a solid, but nothing special run game & his offensive line is aging, still pretty damn good, but isn't as good as it was 7-8 years ago. & yet somehow he's putting up BETTER numbers with less help. That physically makes no sense.
I get it, you're mad he gets the shine & doesn't have to do as much as Peyton Manning. But if we're going to play fantasy world where the QB has to play the system of the coaches, Bill is running the same offense & if he had Peyton, he would make him run the same plays & you'd be here shitting on Peyton.
Can I admit Tom Brady wouldn't have as great the numbers if he was somewhere else? Of course. But do I think he'd be jobless within three weeks? No, he'd still play well. But at the end of the day he isn't anywhere else & he'll continue to put up the great numbers & numbers is what defines sports in this World.
OG Hack Wilson:
if Tom Brady had the lines that Rodgers or Manning have he'd be more like Brad Quinn lol
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