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ummm eminem has not sold anywhere near 5 million in the states. He sold 3.42million at the end of 2010. So unless he managed to sell another 2 million records somwhere in the last couple of weeks...he has not!
I just can't buy into this conspiracy shit. Maybe it's my naivety.
who is pearl jam
An eminem record will get hype, radio play and played in places a record by a brother aint never gettin spun. real talk. Say what you want, but a corny wack song like without me, alot of eminem singles...i cant even think of the titles off the top of my head have been terrible but spun and hyped to death and played in places a joint which is so much better would never get given.
Quote from: SCREWFACE on January 12, 2011, 11:09:44 AMQuote from: Shallow on January 12, 2011, 08:22:10 AMI know stronger but more as a daft punk song and that's about it. lmao.so you refer to every rap song as the original sampled artists? or did sampling daft punk just cripple your lil world so much that you couldnt even just call it a kanye song?to be fair, that particular song was a straight jacking. Kanye showed laziness there.
Quote from: Shallow on January 12, 2011, 08:22:10 AMI know stronger but more as a daft punk song and that's about it. lmao.so you refer to every rap song as the original sampled artists? or did sampling daft punk just cripple your lil world so much that you couldnt even just call it a kanye song?
I know stronger but more as a daft punk song and that's about it.
Quote from: 13th Duke on January 12, 2011, 04:03:20 PMQuote from: SCREWFACE on January 12, 2011, 11:09:44 AMQuote from: Shallow on January 12, 2011, 08:22:10 AMI know stronger but more as a daft punk song and that's about it. lmao.so you refer to every rap song as the original sampled artists? or did sampling daft punk just cripple your lil world so much that you couldnt even just call it a kanye song?to be fair, that particular song was a straight jacking. Kanye showed laziness there. i dont think its being fair at all actually. listen to the original song daft punk sampled from below. you could easily say that was far lazier. kanyes stronger is a lot different than daft punks than people are making it out to be. yet ghosftface can rap over 4 bars looped from a funk song and no-one complains at all. in my opinion its just because people actually know/listen to daft punk so they feel like they song has been ripped off. yet theyve never actually fucking listened to the soul and funk songs that all hip-hop is sample from so they dont realise that actually most of the time, producers just looped 4 bars and added a few extra kicks n snares. kanye changed the song completely and just kept the hook.
I know stronger but more as a daft punk song and that's about it. I mentioned Empire State of Mind as being a hit already. Run This Town is a decent single but not a hit. Hard Knock Life was a hit. Eminem showed us with Relapse that he can't just release anything. There's no hits on that album and the sales suffered. He came back with a hit on Recovery and the sales went way up.
Kanye has never come close to a masterpiece album. He thinks he has, and he's convinced a lot of people he has but he hasn't. Neither has Jay. And even mentioning Drake is an insult to the word masterpiece. For the record, Eminem hasn't either. I listen to a lot of albums from a lot of genres and I'm not bias. The second the art takes a back seat to the artist the album suffers. Illmatic is a masterpiece. 36 Chambers as well. Maybe the Makaveli album. But College Dropout? Reasonable Doubt? No fucking way. They're nice albums to listen to and you can get a lot from them but in the end they don't stand up as complete albums; just nice compilations of songs.
Kanye doesn't understand that. Nas probably didn't either at 19 years old; but Nas, and RZA had what they call a muse guiding their art. It's something much greater than anything thing the conscious mind can think up. Bob Dylan had it in the 60s. Jay Z's main purpose was business, not art, and business came first. With Kanye I think it's fame first, then art. Nas at 19 was trying to be great and the words and flows came from the heavens. Once he reached success and fame his focus changed and his muse was gone. More of his songs and albums came from the head rather than the heart, and he never reached a masterpiece level again.
I'm telling you that critical success and commercial success are different entities.
Quote from: SCREWFACE on January 20, 2011, 12:56:49 PMQuote from: 13th Duke on January 12, 2011, 04:03:20 PMQuote from: SCREWFACE on January 12, 2011, 11:09:44 AMQuote from: Shallow on January 12, 2011, 08:22:10 AMI know stronger but more as a daft punk song and that's about it. lmao.so you refer to every rap song as the original sampled artists? or did sampling daft punk just cripple your lil world so much that you couldnt even just call it a kanye song?to be fair, that particular song was a straight jacking. Kanye showed laziness there. i dont think its being fair at all actually. listen to the original song daft punk sampled from below. you could easily say that was far lazier. kanyes stronger is a lot different than daft punks than people are making it out to be. yet ghosftface can rap over 4 bars looped from a funk song and no-one complains at all. in my opinion its just because people actually know/listen to daft punk so they feel like they song has been ripped off. yet theyve never actually fucking listened to the soul and funk songs that all hip-hop is sample from so they dont realise that actually most of the time, producers just looped 4 bars and added a few extra kicks n snares. kanye changed the song completely and just kept the hook.The difference is Ghostface isn't credited or praised for the 4 bars; he is praised for the rapping. Kanye gets more praised for the instrumental than the vocals.