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The artists mentioned aren't necessarily people who were compared to Pac on a music level. 50 was compared to Pac because of the controversies and maybe the work ethic. Thing is Pac's origins are very East Coast. His flow is more raw and rugged like a New York rapper. Biggie had a more of a Southern Cali vibe to his music than Pac for the most part. Pac was definitely loved in L.A. but his sound din't resemble what LA music sounded like at that time.
i love threads like these that rally up all the pac groupies
Quote from: NoobCake on January 23, 2011, 10:43:31 PMIt would help if all of the 2pac stans at least knew their hero's biography. Google is your friend. No city or even region can really claim him. And that includes desperate Bay Area stans. If there was ever a rapper who was from nowhere and everywhere at the same time it was 2pac. At 15 he moved to Baltimore from NY. 2 years later he moved to marin county where he stayed less than 4 years. In 92 he moved down to LA, then to Atlanta a year later. Obviously after Suge bailed him out of jail, he moved back to LA. Less than a year later he was dead.well Pac never started a serious rap career until he reached CaliPac blew up through Shock G/DU in the early 90s so associating him with the west coast is validbut Baltimore (the early years) and living in NYC and Atlanta is valid for calling him eastcoast.either way i could care less...the man was best on any coast to me and that's all I care about.
It would help if all of the 2pac stans at least knew their hero's biography. Google is your friend. No city or even region can really claim him. And that includes desperate Bay Area stans. If there was ever a rapper who was from nowhere and everywhere at the same time it was 2pac. At 15 he moved to Baltimore from NY. 2 years later he moved to marin county where he stayed less than 4 years. In 92 he moved down to LA, then to Atlanta a year later. Obviously after Suge bailed him out of jail, he moved back to LA. Less than a year later he was dead.
For the record, Young Noble is not a Cali native - you got some false info bro."But I'm from Jerz where we don't play that shit" - Noble on Makaveli's Bomb First
Quote from: Jimmy H. on January 23, 2011, 06:34:38 PMThe artists mentioned aren't necessarily people who were compared to Pac on a music level. 50 was compared to Pac because of the controversies and maybe the work ethic. Thing is Pac's origins are very East Coast. His flow is more raw and rugged like a New York rapper. Biggie had a more of a Southern Cali vibe to his music than Pac for the most part. Pac was definitely loved in L.A. but his sound din't resemble what LA music sounded like at that time. What the fuck??? HAHA how the fuck was BIGGIE west coast style?? Your are deaf homie. 2Pac had NO new york flow at all, especially considering how much he gets criticized for not being a "LYRICIST" compared to guys like Biggie or NAS. Crooked I said it best once, people thinking 2Pac was eastcoast are straight ignorant.
What the fuck??? HAHA how the fuck was BIGGIE west coast style?? Your are deaf homie. 2Pac had NO new york flow at all, especially considering how much he gets criticized for not being a "LYRICIST" compared to guys like Biggie or NAS. Crooked I said it best once, people thinking 2Pac was eastcoast are straight ignorant.
Quote from: LAC/Eastside on January 24, 2011, 06:53:23 PMQuote from: Jimmy H. on January 23, 2011, 06:34:38 PMThe artists mentioned aren't necessarily people who were compared to Pac on a music level. 50 was compared to Pac because of the controversies and maybe the work ethic. Thing is Pac's origins are very East Coast. His flow is more raw and rugged like a New York rapper. Biggie had a more of a Southern Cali vibe to his music than Pac for the most part. Pac was definitely loved in L.A. but his sound din't resemble what LA music sounded like at that time. What the fuck??? HAHA how the fuck was BIGGIE west coast style?? Your are deaf homie. 2Pac had NO new york flow at all, especially considering how much he gets criticized for not being a "LYRICIST" compared to guys like Biggie or NAS. Crooked I said it best once, people thinking 2Pac was eastcoast are straight ignorant. wasn't he born in new york......and you say he had no new york flow? you got to be one of the stupidest dudes around
Quote from: LAC/Eastside on January 24, 2011, 06:53:23 PMWhat the fuck??? HAHA how the fuck was BIGGIE west coast style?? Your are deaf homie. 2Pac had NO new york flow at all, especially considering how much he gets criticized for not being a "LYRICIST" compared to guys like Biggie or NAS. Crooked I said it best once, people thinking 2Pac was eastcoast are straight ignorant. Well, you can be a lyricist and be from anywhere. I'm talking about him having an aggressive flow like Onyx or a harder-based New York rapper. Him and Stretch, his partner from Thug Life, have a similar flow. That's not a California flow. Now for my comments on Biggie, when I say he has a Sothern Cali vibe to his music, he can flip and do very smooth, laid-back flows like a Snoop or Warren G. Even when Pac was on Death Row, he very rarely did that. My point in all of this returns to the original thread. The reason so many New York cats are so called, influenced, by Pac is because Pac was from New York. Pac obviously repped the West in his final years and the region's influence on his career is undeniable but thinking 2Pac was East Coast isn't ignorant, it's fairly accurate. He lived on the East for the majority of his life. He was born and raised in New York. His first rap handle was "MC New York".
Quote from: Classic Material..... Your Bitch'z Wet Dream on January 23, 2011, 03:30:28 PMhe didn't influence shit.lmao whats wit the pac haters pac is the most influental rapper if u dont agree u on crack
he didn't influence shit.
I think that he was not influential at all....it just that his name rhymes with alot of words so his name gets put in raps when they need to rhyme something
I guess on the westcoast rappers could see through Pac and see the influences he incorporated in his raps... so he didn't seem so larger than life. to me Pac is first and foremost a Bay Area dude, that's where he came up musically wise and that's where he spent his teenage years, which are arguably the most critical in forming someone's style... like he said in "Gaffled Like That" with The Gov& Richie Rich "you're fucking with a oakland OG". Ray Luv said that they were heavily bumpin Mac Dre when they were both coming up... and he had also influences in southern cali, hanging around with Syke, being around Death Row etc. now we all know how bay rap gets no radio play on the east... so when Pac was adding his own twist to his influences, that must have been something unheard of on the east... plus i guess some critically praised cats, or some popular cats period idolized and envied his larger than life charisma.There are a few rappers that you can see Pac heavily influenced in the West : Messy Marv, Guce, Yukmouth, Daz.But I think the main reason is that the people that bite 2pac a lot are people that either never met Pac or that Pac wasn't fucking with. SO they tend to idolize and idealize him more. Like in the South, Master P tried to rhyme like Pac a lot, and even bought verses after he died, and you can see how Pac influenced him... well P used to open for Pac when P was based in the Bay and it is said that Pac used to laugh at P and didn't fuck with him (Young Dre talks about it in an interview) when he was fucking with all the other major acts from Northern Cali like E-40, Spice 1, Richie Rich, Rappin' 4-Tay, Mac Mall or C-Bo.The people who knew Pac must probably be aware that 2pac wasn't nothing like he said he was in his songs but still had mad love for him... so it aint an east/west thing, it's just that the artists 2pac was friends with didn't bite him and the other who wanted to kick it with him but couldnt (nas, master p), or just didn't know him (ja) tried to emulate him so ppl could think they were like him. I mean it's also relevant for artists like Lil Wayne, T.i. or Trae... every hot artist drops a featuring with Pac or shouts him out in his lyrics...
Quote from: Smackdog on January 24, 2011, 08:59:11 PMQuote from: LAC/Eastside on January 24, 2011, 06:53:23 PMQuote from: Jimmy H. on January 23, 2011, 06:34:38 PMThe artists mentioned aren't necessarily people who were compared to Pac on a music level. 50 was compared to Pac because of the controversies and maybe the work ethic. Thing is Pac's origins are very East Coast. His flow is more raw and rugged like a New York rapper. Biggie had a more of a Southern Cali vibe to his music than Pac for the most part. Pac was definitely loved in L.A. but his sound din't resemble what LA music sounded like at that time. What the fuck??? HAHA how the fuck was BIGGIE west coast style?? Your are deaf homie. 2Pac had NO new york flow at all, especially considering how much he gets criticized for not being a "LYRICIST" compared to guys like Biggie or NAS. Crooked I said it best once, people thinking 2Pac was eastcoast are straight ignorant. wasn't he born in new york......and you say he had no new york flow? you got to be one of the stupidest dudes aroundOh my bad, I didn't know that if you are born in NEW YORK you AUTOMATICALLY inherit a New York flow hahahaha. Speaking of STUPID.
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