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OG Jaydc:
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--- Quote from: Jaydc is back on January 28, 2011, 09:06:01 PM ---Last time I checked Brady and belli have 3 Sbs and a winning playoff record while manning has one and a losing record in the playoffs, 9-10
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last I checked Bradshaw had 4 rings and Marino 0 but nobody will tell you Bradshaw was better than Marino. nobody, not even Bradshaw's mama.
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coming from the guy who thinks Eli is elite because he has a ring. The point of football is to win the superbowl not have nice stats. Some players just don't thrive in the playoffs, peytons record speaks for itself in the playoffs.
OG Jaydc:
Theirs winners and losers. If you asked me who I'd rather build a team around, Peyton or big Ben I'd take Ben. Ben is a clutch team player that's a proven winner. Peytons a controlling freak that's a regular season wonder but sucks when it matters most
OG Jaydc:
You can't just say oh Peyton on the jets and thier sb champs. Putting him on the jets would change the entire team. Peyton is like what Lebron James was in Cleveland. he is the team, everything goes through him. But that type of player and team dynamic never translates to postseason success in any sport. Peyton isn't a team player he is the team. But whenyou make your team so one dimensional you can be stopped. He's a regular season god, and a sub par post season player. That's just fact. You can make every excuse you want but his stats and records are the evidence
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Jaydc is back on January 30, 2011, 02:30:31 AM ---You can't just say oh Peyton on the jets and thier sb champs. Putting him on the jets would change the entire team. Peyton is like what Lebron James was in Cleveland. he is the team, everything goes through him. But that type of player and team dynamic never translates to postseason success in any sport. Peyton isn't a team player he is the team. But whenyou make your team so one dimensional you can be stopped. He's a regular season god, and a sub par post season player. That's just fact. You can make every excuse you want but his stats and records are the evidence
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Peyton doesn't have any control over defense or special teams and that's what lost the Colts the game against the Jets. Put him on a team that can stop the run and return and stop big kicks and punts and just let him run the offense. Peyton, Wayne, Tamme, Addai, Rhodes and White on the Jets team would get Rex Ryan a ring. Peyton, Holmes, Edwards, Keller, Greene, and LT will get Rex 2 or 3.
You just don't get it. The fact that you think you can compare a basketball leader to an NFL leader shows this. Lebron is responsible for both sides of the ball, and when his team is giving up a lead or allowing the team to run away and score it's his fault. Peyton has no control or expertise with regards to how the Colts stop the run, or tackle. If any of the Brady Pats played the run or tackled like any of the Colts teams Peyton was on, Brady wouldn't have 3 playoffs appearances, much less 3 SBs. So many of those years the Colts squeezed into the playoffs with the next AFC South team waiting in the wings. Peyton made the difference that Brady wouldn't be able to. They'd make it in on 04, 05, 07, and 09, but they'd be 0-4 in the playoffs. And the 06 team that won the SB gets in and beats KC, Brady would get eaten alive by Baltimore on that Indy offense. So 1-5 career playoff record for Brady. Who in reality would have been replaced by 03.
Of course you just argued for Bradshaw against Marino. I guess Franco Harris was better than Barry Sanders too. Cause with Marino and Sanders and the Steel Curtain they'd make the 60s Celtics jealous.
OG Jaydc:
If Peyton had driven down and scored Tds instead of Fgs they would have beat the jets, THATS why they lost. Jets only score 17 points, stop acting like thier defense is so horrible. Manning put up a bunch of Fgs and choked once again in the playoffs, surprise. YOU don't get it because you let your feelings between Brady and manning get in the way. Some players just find the ways to win and some put up nice stats but don't rise when it matters most. I'm saying right now, mark Sanchez will finish his career with more sb rings then Peyton. Peyton can have all the stats he wants, but keep him away from my team. I'd take Brady and big Ben over him. Not because they are better players, because their proven winners and thats what matters most.
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