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Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on January 29, 2011, 08:44:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on January 28, 2011, 07:59:23 PM ---One thing that Kobe does well is clutch on national tv and playoffs, as the Lakers do in general. I can tell you watching many Laker games, in the regular season they can lose many games in the clutch, and look like they don't care. Hell, sometimes I swear Phil Jackson coaches to lose, just so he don't have to coach the all star team in the mid season, or he has a reason to teach them a lesson. But come playoffs, Kobe and the Lakers are pretty clutch, or else they would not have won those 5 titles with Kobe, Fisher and Phil.

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Shaq for 3 of them. The center that most Laker fans believe was better than Hakeem in his prime, but somehow wasnt the focal point during those first three championships. lol

Its funny to me when Lakers fans say the Lakers dont care about the regular season lol. Its like theyre stealing Popovichs approach, but using it as an excuse for when they lose. The Lakers and Phil have typically CARED about the regular season. Its why they were the #1 seed last year. They usually try to jump out to a big lead (in the standings) to sure up the #1 spot for the playoffs. If any team typically doesnt care one bit about the regular season its the Spurs. This is the first year Pop has decided to put his foot on the gas early.

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Remember 2001? They won 52 games and then went 15-1 in the playoffs. They'be been pulling this strategy way before Pop did it. The lost 7 of their final 11 games last year and still won it all. The only difference being that the Lakers actually try to get the #1 Conference seed.

.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:

--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 29, 2011, 12:41:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on January 29, 2011, 08:44:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on January 28, 2011, 07:59:23 PM ---One thing that Kobe does well is clutch on national tv and playoffs, as the Lakers do in general. I can tell you watching many Laker games, in the regular season they can lose many games in the clutch, and look like they don't care. Hell, sometimes I swear Phil Jackson coaches to lose, just so he don't have to coach the all star team in the mid season, or he has a reason to teach them a lesson. But come playoffs, Kobe and the Lakers are pretty clutch, or else they would not have won those 5 titles with Kobe, Fisher and Phil.

--- End quote ---

Shaq for 3 of them. The center that most Laker fans believe was better than Hakeem in his prime, but somehow wasnt the focal point during those first three championships. lol

Its funny to me when Lakers fans say the Lakers dont care about the regular season lol. Its like theyre stealing Popovichs approach, but using it as an excuse for when they lose. The Lakers and Phil have typically CARED about the regular season. Its why they were the #1 seed last year. They usually try to jump out to a big lead (in the standings) to sure up the #1 spot for the playoffs. If any team typically doesnt care one bit about the regular season its the Spurs. This is the first year Pop has decided to put his foot on the gas early.

--- End quote ---
Remember 2001? They won 52 games and then went 15-1 in the playoffs. They'be been pulling this strategy way before Pop did it. The lost 7 of their final 11 games last year and still won it all. The only difference being that the Lakers actually try to get the #1 Conference seed.

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You just said that they try to get the #1 seed, but then are arguing that they dont care about the regular seasson? Like I said, this has always been Pops approach to the regular season....almost to a flaw. The last two years we were dealing with injuries, so thats one thing. But I think Pop realized last year that caring SO little about the regular season put us at such a big disadvantage come playoff time. The Lakers lost 7 of their last 11 games last year because they could afford to...since they had been pushing most of the regular season.

Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on January 29, 2011, 01:36:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 29, 2011, 12:41:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on January 29, 2011, 08:44:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on January 28, 2011, 07:59:23 PM ---One thing that Kobe does well is clutch on national tv and playoffs, as the Lakers do in general. I can tell you watching many Laker games, in the regular season they can lose many games in the clutch, and look like they don't care. Hell, sometimes I swear Phil Jackson coaches to lose, just so he don't have to coach the all star team in the mid season, or he has a reason to teach them a lesson. But come playoffs, Kobe and the Lakers are pretty clutch, or else they would not have won those 5 titles with Kobe, Fisher and Phil.

--- End quote ---

Shaq for 3 of them. The center that most Laker fans believe was better than Hakeem in his prime, but somehow wasnt the focal point during those first three championships. lol

Its funny to me when Lakers fans say the Lakers dont care about the regular season lol. Its like theyre stealing Popovichs approach, but using it as an excuse for when they lose. The Lakers and Phil have typically CARED about the regular season. Its why they were the #1 seed last year. They usually try to jump out to a big lead (in the standings) to sure up the #1 spot for the playoffs. If any team typically doesnt care one bit about the regular season its the Spurs. This is the first year Pop has decided to put his foot on the gas early.

--- End quote ---
Remember 2001? They won 52 games and then went 15-1 in the playoffs. They'be been pulling this strategy way before Pop did it. The lost 7 of their final 11 games last year and still won it all. The only difference being that the Lakers actually try to get the #1 Conference seed.

--- End quote ---

You just said that they try to get the #1 seed, but then are arguing that they dont care about the regular seasson? Like I said, this has always been Pops approach to the regular season....almost to a flaw. The last two years we were dealing with injuries, so thats one thing. But I think Pop realized last year that caring SO little about the regular season put us at such a big disadvantage come playoff time. The Lakers lost 7 of their last 11 games last year because they could afford to...since they had been pushing most of the regular season.

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That's what I'm saying. While the Spurs use to just try to make the playoffs, the Lakers are simply trying to get the #1 Western Conference seed. Last year they won the top spot by just 2 games. They don't go all out like the Cavs use to. They also don't burn out in the playoffs like the Cavs did.

wcsoldier:
We "easily" had the 1st seed last two seasons because we had a very heavy home schedule early which allowed us to build a comfortable early lead over the others contenders in the West ... plus the Lakers were the only real ship contender from the West for 3 years , others teams were good but not very good ...

We do not care too much about regular season since Phil arrived in 2000 ... the team and Phil approach is to peak at the right time around late March and as you said Daygo it is Pop strategy until 2008 ... but then he started to almost completely disregard the regular seasons 08-09 and 09-10 to the point he didn't mind being a 6th-8th seed (the injuries played a role without a doubt but he rested the Big 3 too much whereas they could have played)

.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:

--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 29, 2011, 01:50:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on January 29, 2011, 01:36:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 29, 2011, 12:41:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on January 29, 2011, 08:44:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on January 28, 2011, 07:59:23 PM ---One thing that Kobe does well is clutch on national tv and playoffs, as the Lakers do in general. I can tell you watching many Laker games, in the regular season they can lose many games in the clutch, and look like they don't care. Hell, sometimes I swear Phil Jackson coaches to lose, just so he don't have to coach the all star team in the mid season, or he has a reason to teach them a lesson. But come playoffs, Kobe and the Lakers are pretty clutch, or else they would not have won those 5 titles with Kobe, Fisher and Phil.

--- End quote ---

Shaq for 3 of them. The center that most Laker fans believe was better than Hakeem in his prime, but somehow wasnt the focal point during those first three championships. lol

Its funny to me when Lakers fans say the Lakers dont care about the regular season lol. Its like theyre stealing Popovichs approach, but using it as an excuse for when they lose. The Lakers and Phil have typically CARED about the regular season. Its why they were the #1 seed last year. They usually try to jump out to a big lead (in the standings) to sure up the #1 spot for the playoffs. If any team typically doesnt care one bit about the regular season its the Spurs. This is the first year Pop has decided to put his foot on the gas early.

--- End quote ---
Remember 2001? They won 52 games and then went 15-1 in the playoffs. They'be been pulling this strategy way before Pop did it. The lost 7 of their final 11 games last year and still won it all. The only difference being that the Lakers actually try to get the #1 Conference seed.

--- End quote ---

You just said that they try to get the #1 seed, but then are arguing that they dont care about the regular seasson? Like I said, this has always been Pops approach to the regular season....almost to a flaw. The last two years we were dealing with injuries, so thats one thing. But I think Pop realized last year that caring SO little about the regular season put us at such a big disadvantage come playoff time. The Lakers lost 7 of their last 11 games last year because they could afford to...since they had been pushing most of the regular season.

--- End quote ---
That's what I'm saying. While the Spurs use to just try to make the playoffs, the Lakers are simply trying to get the #1 Western Conference seed. Last year they won the top spot by just 2 games. They don't go all out like the Cavs use to. They also don't burn out in the playoffs like the Cavs did.

--- End quote ---

What Im saying is, Pop has always taken the approach that whether its the #1, 2 or 3 seed...it doesnt matter. We've won championships without being the #1 seed. And didnt make the finals as a #1 seed. He just wanted the team to be healthy come playoff time. So he would always rest starters...sometimes giving them the night off for no reason BUT to rest. He has always been the ultimate "regular season doesnt matter" guy. As a fan I get it, and its kind of smart. But Ive also always wanted to see them really push to get the #1 spot more. The Lakers put more emphasis on the regular season. Theyve won titles with it, so its ok. Like you were saying, the Cavs put huge emphasis on the regular season and didnt do shit in the playoffs.

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